The DD40 combined with the guide is far better than the LR32 system. I would still consider the Domino but save up for the 700 if gates and doors were in the future. The real advantage is to have the Pin system to register from hole to hole and the 700 has that option. Although the older/original domino 500 had pins. That being the case I would get the DD40 and then look hard and long for a good deal on the older 500. If you didn't end up liking the the 500 you can always sale it and get your money back.
The "pins" you mention are one of the reasons why Mafell and Festool reduced their partnership in production and development to somewhere near zero in the last years. This positioning pins where developed by Mafell and Festool used them for their Dominos without permission. Later Festool changed the system because of legal trouble with Mafell...
Last Edit: Feb 2, 2014 16:16:43 GMT -5 by christoph
Got a quote for both tools, from Timberwolf, today - terrific service, very quick. Even with shipping to Australia, I could get the 'G' for a couple of hundred $ cheaper than the 500 Domino. The 'P' would be about the same as a 500 with an assortment of tenons and accessories. The 700 is a LOT more, down here, and I wouldn't even consider it. Think I'll go for the 'G', but will think about it.
I don't think I'd trust either doms or dowels for exterior, large joinery items. Maybe if you were using a frame and panel construction method, you could run your grooves for the panel, then cut a stub tenon on the ends of the rails, and add some dowels to the ends of the tenons. You could drill the dowels first, then cut your grooves and tenons.
Post by MrToolJunkie on Jan 19, 2015 22:07:07 GMT -5
I think that the 700 would do fine for exterior joints - a 14 mm tenon is pretty big. There is a video on You Tube of a guy that builds exterior doors with the XL and he says it does fine. I think that the DD40 would work with the 16mm dowels too. The Duo-Doweler is on my list as I could know out shelf pin holes in record time.
My recommendation is the P. More power for easier plunging and allows for the full range of dowels in a machine that has the same footprint. Leaves you the most options. If youre about to invest in a tool such as this go all the way.
I love my duodoweler and use it for just about all my joinery. Never had any problems whatsoever. I think many people seriously underestimate dowels and sont give them enough credit.
Last Edit: Jan 19, 2015 22:48:48 GMT -5 by jonathan
Dou dowler is an excellent tool. I got the p for the same reason as Jonathan as I felt it gave the most options with the extra power. What sort of projects do you have in mind.
For work I want it for general cabinet construction, and there are always situations where I need really accurate alignment for components of the custom bars/restaurant counters I build, for final glue up on site. I use biscuits at the moment, and they just don't cut it. Would also be perfect for feature wall panels, that the fitters hang on split-battens (French cleats), so they could get a nice flush finish from face to face.
We have a Blum minipress for shelf hole, hinge plate and hinge boring - but the DD would be perfect for drilling hinge plate holes if a cabinet doesn't require any other drilling. Much quicker than setting up the press for a few sets of holes. Also for interior timber screen construction, that we did a lot of last year - would make alignment a breeze. In other words, it should get a work out!
Also have a heap of cabinets to build at home, as well as a dining table.
Can't see myself using the 16mm dowels, but I'll do a bit more thinking before pulling the trigger.
Post by wrightwoodwork on Jan 20, 2015 9:25:59 GMT -5
It is also useful for the corner joints of cabinets etc just a case of having all the parts cut the same, then from the same point going from the same point and using the same position to drill in each piece then all the same. Then again you maybe use the blum for that as well.
abdon: I stand corrected , the angle fence is only attaches with F -Tracks , what confused me was , that the Timberwolf site mentioned it will work with the NFU machine, yes it will work but only I guess when you use the Ftrack , with other tracks Like the KSS L.
Nov 28, 2020 22:52:01 GMT -5
glynnco: Did you order from GereedschapPro? I see them as in stock but I'm located in the US and am not sure if they ship here. I sent them an email asking about shipping but it was returned undeliverable...
Dec 10, 2020 7:37:40 GMT -5
jonathan: I've purchased a lot of stuff from our neighbours @ GereedschapPro.nl As far as I know they are one of the larger Mafell dealers in the EU. I can recommend them, they usually respond quickly.
Dec 11, 2020 13:58:36 GMT -5
NFU 50 Transportation?: Hi Guys, is there some Systainer for the NFU 50?
Dec 11, 2020 14:30:12 GMT -5
frezik24: Hello everyone
Dec 13, 2020 9:20:00 GMT -5
lasse: Thanks for the tip! I have own a mafell rail which is 160 cm and one that is 80 cm. Will it work just as well or will I need to buy rail that is 110 cm?
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