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Mar 21, 2013 4:29:47 GMT -5
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Post by GhostFist on Mar 21, 2013 4:29:47 GMT -5
What are the differences between the two models? I'm in line for a "g"
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Post by jalvis on Mar 21, 2013 11:55:06 GMT -5
There are several Differences Between the Two Models. The important difference is bit sizes. Think of the G model as smaller and the P model as larger.
G model Bit sizes: 3-12 mm Drilling Depth: 0-37 mm G model Watts: 700 Included bit sizes: 6, 8, 10 mm
P model Bit sizes: 5-16 mm Drilling Depth: 0-40 mm P model Watts: 1000 Included Bit sizes: 8, 10, 12 mm
Naturally the P model will require a higher watt motor for larger bits.
Several important similarities is the spacing between the bits which is 32 mm and both models can use 5 mm bits. This allows for shelf pin standards for the 32 mm euro system for cabinets. Standard shelf pin size is 5 mm(NOT 1/4 inch!). Both machines do NOT come with 5 mm bits so that will have to be added separately if you plan to do shelf pin drilling. Although both models come with 8 mm bits which is the most common size for cabinet box construction.
Since were on the Subject of drilling bits for the Doweller. The Drilling bit arbor size is not standard to line bore machines. The Mafell bits are smaller at 8 mm which drastically limits availability in the United States.
Another point to consider is that the G model(smaller) allows 3 mm bits. One can get 3 mm shelf pins and thus allow for nearly invisible shelf adjustment. I plan on adding a set for this purpose.
A little history on the Duo Doweller. Mafell manufactured and badged a model G for Hoffman for a short time in the USA. This unit is known as the Hoffman PDS 32 (Personal Dowelling System 32 mm). Its the exact same machine as the Mafell G model but re-badged. All the parts and accessories are compatible so if you own a PDS-32 spare parts or service can be done through Mafell.
In fact the model I own is the Hoffman PDS 32. It came in a systainer that has the Hoffman sticker but then has red latches and the Mafell logo embossed in the lid....same machine as the Duo-Dowel G model! I also have the Hoffman Drilling Template which I added the Clamping Device Retro kit(#203690) and it fits as expected....Perfect!
I'm still learning about this amazing machine and plan to post more details and videos in the future. Good luck!
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Mar 21, 2013 17:54:02 GMT -5
Post by GhostFist on Mar 21, 2013 17:54:02 GMT -5
Cool can't wait to play with it. I'm getting it as payment for a job I'm doing for someone. It is the 220v version so I'll need a voltage converter.
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Mar 22, 2013 10:50:47 GMT -5
Post by jalvis on Mar 22, 2013 10:50:47 GMT -5
Have you done any research or contacted Mafell about the Voltage Converter? I have been looking into the Erika 85 which would require a converter(240-120) for job sites in the USA. Timberwolf didnt have any recommendations other then which one they sold would be best. I'm interested as it would be a shame to cause damage to a high quality tool like Mafell.
I think one will have to Contact headquarters in Germany for recommendation on which specific brand and model of converter to use.
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Mar 22, 2013 13:00:15 GMT -5
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Post by GhostFist on Mar 22, 2013 13:00:15 GMT -5
I'll talk to my guy and see what he says.
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Mar 24, 2013 14:37:23 GMT -5
Post by jalvis on Mar 24, 2013 14:37:23 GMT -5
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Sept 14, 2013 17:54:01 GMT -5
Post by nucone on Sept 14, 2013 17:54:01 GMT -5
New member here and didn't want to start a new thread just to ask a question. I am considering getting a DD40G to use primarily for case construction using 8mm dowels and for drilling shelf pin holes. For my applications, I have no need for either the 3mm hole size or the 16mm size. If you have the DD40G model, have you ever felt that you should have purchased the P model? If so, why? Thanks in advance for any input. Steve
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Post by jalvis on Sept 14, 2013 21:55:32 GMT -5
I've never felt the need for the Larger P model. Although I use a Domino if I need something larger.
Personally I think the best combination would be a Mafell DD40G and the Festool 700 Domino. That would cover everything from Cabinets to Gate or Entry Door construction.
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Sept 17, 2013 4:58:12 GMT -5
Post by jonathan on Sept 17, 2013 4:58:12 GMT -5
I'm not saying the DD40G is underpowered as I haven't used it. But I personally went for the DD40P simply because I'd rather have power to spare than to possibly struggle with a plunge in end grain. And I also find myself using the 12 & 16 mm dowels from time to time.
Which ever one you get, I doubt you'll be disappointed by this very versatile, underrated and often misunderstood tool.
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Sept 17, 2013 7:21:09 GMT -5
Post by wrightwoodwork on Sept 17, 2013 7:21:09 GMT -5
I did the same as Jonathan and went for the p so I had the power to do 16mm dowels which I done. If you are doing mainly cabinets then G will be fine but if you want to do heavy joinery then the P would be the better choice unless you have large dommino
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Sept 18, 2013 1:24:43 GMT -5
Post by 7 on Sept 18, 2013 1:24:43 GMT -5
If you guys could only choose one which would it be- Small domino, large domino, small or large duo? I know it depends largely on application but my work is so random and non-specialized that it's hard to point out a specific application.
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Post by jonathan on Sept 18, 2013 2:15:13 GMT -5
Unless you have a list of specific applications, I think it becomes more a matter of subjective variables like personal preferences, price, looks, brand loyalty, etc... In my case I only have the DD40P because I think it's the most versatile machine of that list. I always like some extra power as well. I'd rather have power to spare than struggle. I use it for just about all my joinery and I find myself using 12mm & 16mm dowels from time to time. I don't know why many dislikes dowels. They've proven to plenty strong to me! So personally, I don't see the need for the Domino's XL large floating tenons, but that might just be because my projects aren't big enough. The other big application it sees is for my 32mm spacing cabinet drilling. It's hard to convey how easy and fast 32mm spacings are with a DD40. Of course others may have completely different opinions  Each machine has strengths and weaknesses, the ideal scenario is one of both, but that can really stretch a budget  Regardless, I'm convinced both the Domino and DD40 are excellent additions to any workshop and neither will disappoint. I just find the DD40 the most versatile.
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Sept 18, 2013 4:29:55 GMT -5
Post by jalvis on Sept 18, 2013 4:29:55 GMT -5
I just find the DD40 the most versatile. I agree. Mainly do to the 32mm spacing for shelf pins and the template guide combination.
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Sept 18, 2013 20:57:14 GMT -5
Post by 7 on Sept 18, 2013 20:57:14 GMT -5
I currently do the shelf pins with the festool LR32 system using the OF1010 router. Do you guys prefer the DD40 over the LR32? If yes then that makes the DD40 quite affordable using it for both tasks. I guess the buzzword for the DD40 seems to be versatile.
Thanks for the input.
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Sept 19, 2013 0:27:02 GMT -5
Post by jonathan on Sept 19, 2013 0:27:02 GMT -5
I currently do the shelf pins with the festool LR32 system using the OF1010 router. Do you guys prefer the DD40 over the LR32? If yes then that makes the DD40 quite affordable using it for both tasks. I guess the buzzword for the DD40 seems to be versatile. Thanks for the input. Personally I do. The DD40 with it's indexing rails is a lot easier to set up (for me) and it's also a little faster. But if you're already invested in the Festool LR32 and it works for you, I don't see why you'd get rid of it. 7, you get it. Having to only buy 1 tool to fulfill 2 tasks, was also a big part in my decision to get the DD40 over a Domino. Saves money, space, and setup time. I guess someone who has a DD40 and the indexing rail will have to make a video on that some time 
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