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Post by fuzzylogic on Mar 22, 2017 17:34:51 GMT -5
Hi gerp. Understand now - should have read thread more carefully! kraftt's post really helpful. Link for uk dealers wrt hose part # 205276 www.nmatools.co.uk/productdetails.asp?Product=1779&ZStock=0 Guess worth contacting Timberwolf to get 'local' details from them. Maybe Timberwolf could help with any other queries?? Richard (UK) |
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Post by gerp124 on Mar 22, 2017 17:42:34 GMT -5
kraftThanks. I made the mistake of mixing too many things in my post, one of which was complaining that Mafell doesn't actually include the documentation in pdf that you linked to- thanks. Let me try to clarify: Hooking up the AeroFix is not the problem. The problem is: Finding a hose to use between the saw and the AeroFix that is long enough to use on 10' rips. The pdf that you linked to shows the short hose that is included with the AeroFix connected between the saw and the AeroFix, and it wonderfully illustrates the limitations. I realize it stretches, but I don't want to have pull on it use the entire length of the 51" AeroFix track, let alone longer tracks. I think this thread and all the others I've found are confirming my suspicion that there just aren't standards, and virtually no manufacturer documentation (I want a drawing with detailed measurements, or tell me what it will fit), and I really don't want to just blindly order parts just to see if they work.
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Post by gerp124 on Mar 22, 2017 17:55:10 GMT -5
thanks fuzzylogicI have found that part, but I see that it's only 1m long- the cuts I need to make are 2m-3m. I know they stretch, but even if I can stretch 2x-3x, it just seems like I'll be struggling to stretch it, deflecting the track and the saw and pulling on the AeroFix, etc... |
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Post by gerp124 on Mar 22, 2017 18:24:09 GMT -5
gerp124, can you post pictures of the parts in question? YES! 10 goats and eternal gratitude to the Shaman voodoo witch doctor that figures this out: Focus is fine on my phone, but not here, don't know why- here is the short hose that came with the AeroFix, I need a hose exactly like this except 4x-5x times longer:  Measurement of the 35mm connector end with the fancy groove and rubber O-ring. The other end is exactly the same:  I also need an adapter to go from the connector above to a 2.25" female port:  Measurement of the 2.25" piece:  |
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Post by Eoj on Mar 22, 2017 18:36:11 GMT -5
On the timberwolftools website ,look at the mt55cc . AS you scroll down the FXSL is listed with the Aerofix and blades .
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Post by Eoj on Mar 22, 2017 18:42:44 GMT -5
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Post by gerp124 on Mar 22, 2017 19:15:19 GMT -5
Thanks very much for all the continued help Eoj, I _do_ appreciate it. I now see that I _had_ found the FXSL earlier, but at 1m, it's not long enough for the 10'-12' rips I want to do. I've also seen the Festool connector that linked to, but I'm not sure what to do with it- buy somebody's hose and replace the connector? The description says: "Festool 452892 Antistatic Rotating Hose Connector For D 27 Antistatic Hose" Playing with the short Mafell hose that came with the AeroFix, I found that the connector unscrews, and measuring it, the ID is a little under 24mm and the OD is a little over 33mm, so it's not a 27mm hose, unless that's a 'nominal' dimension, indicating that it's the hose size that fits on the 27mm ID connector. Also, it doesn't _look_ like the connectors on the AeroFix hose, so I wonder if it's 27mm ID and 35mm OD like the AeroFix hose connector. |
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Post by Eoj on Mar 22, 2017 19:50:36 GMT -5
Thanks very much for all the continued help Eoj, I _do_ appreciate it. I now see that I _had_ found the FXSL earlier, but at 1m, it's not long enough for the 10'-12' rips I want to do. I've also seen the Festool connector that linked to, but I'm not sure what to do with it- buy somebody's hose and replace the connector? The description says: "Festool 452892 Antistatic Rotating Hose Connector For D 27 Antistatic Hose" Playing with the short Mafell hose that came with the AeroFix, I found that the connector unscrews, and measuring it, the ID is a little under 24mm and the OD is a little over 33mm, so it's not a 27mm hose, unless that's a 'nominal' dimension, indicating that it's the hose size that fits on the 27mm ID connector. Also, it doesn't _look_ like the connectors on the AeroFix hose, so I wonder if it's 27mm ID and 35mm OD like the AeroFix hose connector. The FXSL is 10.2 feet long.......reading is fundamental .......I own it and it does just fine for 8 foot sheet material . The linked part will replace one end of the black hose to connect to the vac.........basic hose repair . All these different hose and connectors are just one part of the equipment puzzle ,have fun with it ! |
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Post by gerp124 on Mar 22, 2017 20:10:36 GMT -5
The FXSL is 10.2 feet long.......reading is fundamental .......I own it and it does just fine for 8 foot sheet material . The linked part will replace one end of the black hose to connect to the vac.........basic hose repair . All these different hose and connectors are just one part of the equipment puzzle ,have fun with it ! Thanks again, I'll take your word for it, I'm glad to have your firsthand experience, but when it says 1000mm (39") and that I can stretch it to 10.5', I don't feel very confident about it. The hose that came with the AeroFix stretches easily for about 50% of it's length, not close to double, and definitely not 3 times. Regarding the "Festool 452892 Antistatic Rotating Hose Connector", what vac will it connect to? More importantly, what dimension, and is it the female or male component? Thanks again. |
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Post by kraftt on Mar 22, 2017 20:39:56 GMT -5
Sounds like it’s all sorted out then, err …I think. A while back member ‘ aas’ told me about the Aerofix 'long hose' and how he likes it so much he uses it for all his other tools as well. It got me looking for local vendors who could supply a very supple hose. Didn’t find any but here’s a few links I collected that you might find interesting: Starmix - think I read on these forums that they make Mafell’s vac stuff (rebranded)- if you scroll down the list there’s even a red hose as well… www.starmix.de/en/products/accessories/hoses-nozzles-pipesDon’t know what brand shop vac you have but Dewalt (yuk) has some different adapters: www.dewalt.com/products/accessories/tool-accessories/dust-management-accessoriesThese guys have some unique adapters too: wandersproducts.com/product-category/hose-parts/————————————— For the heck of it I’m just curious if anyone has ever tried plugging up the vac port intended for the saw on the Aerofix connector, and only connecting Aerofix connector to a separate household canister vac (the kind with a detachable flexi hose). So when you step on the canister vac foot switch the Aerofix adheres (possibly with greater suction as well). Then using the short Aerofix vac hose (or other) independently from saw to saw vacuum. (?) |
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Post by gerp124 on Mar 22, 2017 21:30:03 GMT -5
Sounds like it’s all sorted out then, err …I think. A while back member ‘ aas’ told me about the Aerofix 'long hose' and how he likes it so much he uses it for all his other tools as well. It got me looking for local vendors who could supply a very supple hose. Didn’t find any but here’s a few links I collected that you might find interesting: Starmix - think I read on these forums that they make Mafell’s vac stuff (rebranded)- if you scroll down the list there’s even a red hose as well… www.starmix.de/en/products/accessories/hoses-nozzles-pipesDon’t know what brand shop vac you have but Dewalt (yuk) has some different adapters: www.dewalt.com/products/accessories/tool-accessories/dust-management-accessoriesThese guys have some unique adapters too: wandersproducts.com/product-category/hose-parts/————————————— For the heck of it I’m just curious if anyone has ever tried plugging up the vac port intended for the saw on the Aerofix connector, and only connecting Aerofix connector to a separate household canister vac (the kind with a detachable flexi hose). So when you step on the canister vac foot switch the Aerofix adheres (possibly with greater suction as well). Then using the short Aerofix vac hose (or other) independently from saw to saw vacuum. (?) Well, no, not really- I still need to do 10'-12' pieces. I was strongly encouraged to buy enough track to do it without having to moving the track, so unless I want to move the track because the _hose_ is to short, it looks like I'll be buying a bunch of pieces and a few rolls of duct tape to mock something up. Maybe I'll just tape some toilet paper tubes together :-) I like the Starmix link- there's pretty good detail. I wish I could get it in the U.S., but a search makes it look like there might be some relationship with a US company call CS Unitec, but when I look at their website, I find a single hose with no detailed information :-) Your idea about dedicating the AeroFix is a good one- if I don't connect the saw to it, then I only need a 5' hose to get from one end to the other if the vac is in the middle. This could really be the ticket, if I can adapt it to the 2.25" ShopVac (Sears Craftsman- an old hand-me-down). Thanks again kraft |
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Post by kraftt on Mar 22, 2017 22:00:00 GMT -5
Good intel on CS Unitec, gonna look them up and see if I can exploit it.
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Post by kraftt on Mar 22, 2017 23:16:03 GMT -5
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Post by aas on Mar 23, 2017 1:00:38 GMT -5
Just get the FXS-L - trust us that it stretches. Toolnut are selling it : www.toolnut.com/mafell-205276-fxs-1000mm-flexible-hose-for-aerofix.htmlThen join the hose that came with the Aerofix to the new hose - this combo will easily stretch to the length you require. I used a 10cm (4") length of 40mm (1½") waste pipe (a good quality one with thin walls). This also allows me to extend the Festool vac hose with the Mafell FXS-L. Unscrew the two ends and take them to your local hardware/plumbing store - you'll find something to work for you. |
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Post by jonathan on Mar 23, 2017 3:06:03 GMT -5
I'm not American and I don't have any experience with those infamous shop vacs you guys have over there. But from what I've read and understand they have a large diameter hose that doesn't really connect to any tool without all kinds of adapters. Please feel free to correct me if I'm spreading wrong information here though. It sounds to me you're trying to fight the ecosystem and I really do hate to be that guy, but in my opinion the best thing you can do, is to simply bite the bullet and buy the longer flex hose and a good dust extractor that was designed to fit with these tools. I strongly recommend the Metabo ASR 35 ACP . It is a rebranded Starmix Ipulse. The same ones Mafell themselves sell but at a cheaper price. The most important thing is that it comes with a large 35mm diameter hose and a 27mm connector. This 35mm hose is important! It allows better airflow than other dust extractors that come with a 27mm diameter hose by default. It also happens to be the best dust extractor currently on the market. Alternatives are a Festool CT, Bosch VAC090, Fein Turbo but these all ship with thinner hoses out of the box, which is not what you want. Again, most importantly, it comes with a 35mm hose and a rubber end that will fit any of the high end tools. A lot of guys don't want to drop that kind of money on a vacuum, but it's the best tool purchase you'll ever make. This will fit any of tool with a dust port from reputable manufacturers like Mafell, Festool, Makita, Bosch... |
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