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Post by questa on Sept 24, 2017 11:59:38 GMT -5
Nailman, I have a 3-4 year old 70 with slider, MFA and extensions. having all the pieces gives a lot of flexibility on setup. I am only a DIY/hobbyist so rizzoa, TomG, Eoj, wright and R cash are best ones to ask about from heavy use on site. check their post or contact directly. I dont think I have heard of any real negatives from anyone. Here is a link to Robins site, I beleive he is heavily invested into MaFELL. santacruzconstructionguild.us/robin-cash-custom-woodworking-design/ |
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Post by naildrivingman on Sept 24, 2017 14:58:47 GMT -5
I've read that the cast iron rip fence and extrusion are less than satisfactory. I will be putting hands on a 70 before I commit to buy. Ideally, I would like to invest in the following to start: router extension with 2'6" rails and possibly the MFA (unless I can make the universal fence work for my ripping needs). The rip fence with micro adjust is tempting, but I can't justify over $400 for a fence that isn't rock solid unless I have two locking points. Biesmeyer and Delta both lock down with one contact point. I would expect that Mafell could do the same.
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Post by rizzoa13 on Sept 24, 2017 18:37:19 GMT -5
Don't knock it just because it only has one locking point. My incra fence has 3 and I usually only use the two. I'm happy to take an extra second to lock it down and know it'll never move.
The MFA fence with enough rail to use a clamping piece in the front is as solid as you could possibly ask. Doesn't have micro adjustlike the incra but it's still as accurate as you can be measuring to the tooth of the blade.
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Post by naildrivingman on Sept 24, 2017 19:40:08 GMT -5
Don't knock it just because it only has one locking point. My incra fence has 3 and I usually only use the two. I'm happy to take an extra second to lock it down and know it'll never move. The MFA fence with enough rail to use a clamping piece in the front is as solid as you could possibly ask. Doesn't have micro adjustlike the incra but it's still as accurate as you can be measuring to the tooth of the blade. To be fair, I haven't seen the fence. I am commenting based on what I've read. From what I understand it seems that the operator needs to first lock the cast iron fence then walk around the saw to tighten the clamping element in order to lock the extruded fence extension down. Perhaps I am expecting too much ease of use from a portable saw with shop based saw quality of cut. Bottom line is I need the ability to rip down a 12" board for sure and possibly the ability to manipulate up to a 24" wide piece. None of this I believe I can do with the 70 in its stock format, so I'm sure I will need the router extension, shorter rails and a fence of some sort. |
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Post by rizzoa13 on Sept 25, 2017 1:30:23 GMT -5
Don't knock it just because it only has one locking point. My incra fence has 3 and I usually only use the two. I'm happy to take an extra second to lock it down and know it'll never move. The MFA fence with enough rail to use a clamping piece in the front is as solid as you could possibly ask. Doesn't have micro adjustlike the incra but it's still as accurate as you can be measuring to the tooth of the blade. To be fair, I haven't seen the fence. I am commenting based on what I've read. From what I understand it seems that the operator needs to first lock the cast iron fence then walk around the saw to tighten the clamping element in order to lock the extruded fence extension down. Perhaps I am expecting too much ease of use from a portable saw with shop based saw quality of cut. Bottom line is I need the ability to rip down a 12" board for sure and possibly the ability to manipulate up to a 24" wide piece. None of this I believe I can do with the 70 in its stock format, so I'm sure I will need the router extension, shorter rails and a fence of some sort. [ I've never used the rip fence but when using the MFA for ripping the clamping is done at the front where you stand. You turn slightly to the side to unlock the MFA, take your tape and measure between the fence and the saw tooth, lock down the MFA and then rerun to the front of the saw where you quickly tighten the clamping piece. It's really fast and efficient. |
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Post by GhostFist on Sept 25, 2017 7:33:52 GMT -5
I own the rip fence, and despite other's complaints on here, I like it. I also don't lock it at the back. I've not noticed any deflection if you lock the micro adjust knob and then the main lock. Love the simplicity of the micro adjust.
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Post by GhostFist on Sept 25, 2017 12:09:14 GMT -5
I should note, the rip fence is pre-drilled to allow for attachments such as the 1 meter fence extension, a sacrificial fence or other jigs. It does not supply hardware for mounting attachments. I ground a few leevalley t-bolts to fit the t-slots on the mafell fences and use that for quick attachment/detachment of any accessories. I also use my mfa in conjunction with the rip fence as a sort of guide/featherboard. Not quite a featherboard as there is no spring action to stock fences of course, but you get the idea. Am pondering making a featherboard attachment for the mfa, as it would work a treat
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Post by holmz on Sept 25, 2017 16:38:28 GMT -5
Don't knock it just because it only has one locking point. My incra fence has 3 and I usually only use the two. I'm happy to take an extra second to lock it down and know it'll never move. The MFA fence with enough rail to use a clamping piece in the front is as solid as you could possibly ask. Doesn't have micro adjustlike the incra but it's still as accurate as you can be measuring to the tooth of the blade. To be fair, I haven't seen the fence.... Well I have yet to put the Incra on it... (Sicker than a Dog on Sunday or I may have worked on it) ... but the standard fence is not bad at all. At least the parts come out a consistent width. The last tablesaw I used was an old craftsman ~20-25 years ago, and this is a step up, but I was able to make some decent stuff on that. |
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Post by holmz on Sept 25, 2017 16:39:39 GMT -5
I should note, the rip fence is pre-drilled to allow for attachments such as the 1 meter fence extension, a sacrificial fence or other jigs. It does not supply hardware for mounting attachments. I ground a few leevalley t-bolts to fit the t-slots on the mafell fences and use that for quick attachment/detachment of any accessories. I also use my mfa in conjunction with the rip fence as a sort of guide/featherboard. Not quite a featherboard as there is no spring action to stock fences of course, but you get the idea. Am pondering making a featherboard attachment for the mfa, as it would work a treat I ponder too... I would like to see what you come up with. |
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Post by GhostFist on Sept 25, 2017 16:48:50 GMT -5
My idea would be to route in an appropriate t-slot into a simple shop made feather board so it could be attached to the angle fence. Easy peasy. Would also like the jessum roller guides for the rip fence. Then we'd really be cooking with chicken!
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Post by rizzoa13 on Sept 25, 2017 17:31:45 GMT -5
I've got the Jessem clear cut stock guides on my incra fence and they are super useful especially for larger pieces as they have a 5• angle to them to guide them back against the fence.
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Post by naildrivingman on Sept 25, 2017 20:29:35 GMT -5
I own the rip fence, and despite other's complaints on here, I like it. I also don't lock it at the back. I've not noticed any deflection if you lock the micro adjust knob and then the main lock. Love the simplicity of the micro adjust. Do you have the side extension? If so, would you tell me the overall width left to right? Thx! |
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Post by Eoj on Sept 25, 2017 21:01:10 GMT -5
Link for side extension....... link |
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Post by kraftt on Sept 25, 2017 21:17:42 GMT -5
hey, thanks Eoj
I was on amazon just now looking for a standard/fractional + metric tape measure and saw the Tajima but could not find an image anywhere on the net, not even Tajima's own site, of what their white blade/rules looked like other than the 3cm sticking out of tape in product image.
So I gave up, wandered over to the Mafell forum to see what's new, followed your link, and (lol) there were the images I was looking for.
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Post by GhostFist on Sept 26, 2017 8:31:50 GMT -5
I own the rip fence, and despite other's complaints on here, I like it. I also don't lock it at the back. I've not noticed any deflection if you lock the micro adjust knob and then the main lock. Love the simplicity of the micro adjust. Do you have the side extension? If so, would you tell me the overall width left to right? Thx! I have the side extension rails but did not purchase the plate, I made my own quick and dirty. I'll get you some dimensions on how far you can move the rails out for maximum rip |
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