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Post by MrToolJunkie on May 26, 2017 10:04:54 GMT -5
Anyone know if these have variable speed? I cut other material in addition to wood and speed control is helpful.
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Post by kraftt on May 26, 2017 21:39:55 GMT -5
I'm curious to know what this is/does -
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Post by mafelluser on May 27, 2017 10:11:56 GMT -5
Although the battery packs are removable, I wonder if it could be an on-board charging port.
A mains-powered optional port for actual sawing would be fabulous, but it's not in an appropriate place for that. Pity the video resolution is so poor, but I guess we'll know all the specs & details very soon.
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Post by mafelluser on May 27, 2017 13:01:43 GMT -5
zooming that MT55 18 BL video screengrab, an 'LiHD' label is visible at the location under scrutiny:
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Post by henrun on May 27, 2017 13:22:54 GMT -5
It could be a transmitter to turn on a shop Vac. Or... ...maybe it is just the LiHD logo.
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Post by kraftt on May 28, 2017 7:22:18 GMT -5
I'm hoping transmitter too. Looks like the Makita tracksaw went 36v . Thinner blade too for more power so there could be more blade options out there depending on who's making them. Their brushless miter saws have bluetooth vac switch for their cordless vacuums so I'm assuming the tracksaw does too(?). Why so few Ligna '17 Mafell photos and vids so far? I emailed one of the listed Mafell reps at show and told them to start coughing up.
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Post by ohan on May 29, 2017 4:40:49 GMT -5
So.. Probably an obvious question but since 50<55, I'm assuming all the "issues" people had with the HK saw (power, inability to cut 2X dimensional lumber full depth at 45 degrees) are also present in the new Mafell product - and perhaps worse in the case of DOC?
I had basically talked myself out of the HK in favor of the 60, so it's a bit hard for me to get as excited about something smaller; or perhaps I should be looking at it as a slightly more capable 40.. So hard to do this kind of comparison without access to any of the tools!
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 29, 2017 7:29:57 GMT -5
Sometimes it boils down to how often you cut at 45 and how thick the timber mostly is if only occasionally short then the 50 is fine but if all the time then the 60
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Post by henrun on May 29, 2017 13:59:21 GMT -5
So.. Probably an obvious question but since 50<55, I'm assuming all the "issues" people had with the HK saw (power, inability to cut 2X dimensional lumber full depth at 45 degrees) are also present in the new Mafell product - and perhaps worse in the case of DOC? I had basically talked myself out of the HK in favor of the 60, so it's a bit hard for me to get as excited about something smaller; or perhaps I should be looking at it as a slightly more capable 40.. So hard to do this kind of comparison without access to any of the tools! Ohan: I agree. From my own experience I can say that the need to cut something thick at 45 degrees is very seldom needed and often it is solved by mitre cutting the joint/end at full depth and 45 degree angle. When you are in that territory and or need precision there are better saws for the task. I do a little bit of everything - if I was more specialized in a particular field I might have had more need for a larger DOC - or less. For framers / timber house builders there are a few specialty tools that I think are really cool but I could not justify buying any of them for a type of work I would only be doing once or twice a year - and could solve with other tools for those "rare" occasions. I have done some 34mm treated wood cutting and ripping with the KSS 40 M the last couple of days on a deck build and the machine does a great job ripping that close to the maximum DOC. On the FSN rail it is just a few mm off the max DOC. I have wished a few times that the saw would have allowed cutting down 2" on the flat and mitre - but we had a mitre saw set up so no big deal. A KSS 50 would probably have made the rips a little faster and a few more cuts possible = fewer trips to the mitre saw. I could have made good use of both machines - rip blade on one of them and universal blade on the other. If I was in the market today and had no other saw I would easily go for the KSS 50. But having the KSS 40 is great - it is very impressive and super light so I am afraid I can't get rid of it. For flooring I would get by easily with it, both for sub flooring, wood and laminate. I would say it is a superb interior saw. I would definitely bring the KSS 50 for decking and outdoor work. The KSS60 (corded) was a very solid machine. But a little heavy to swing that battle axe all day when I didn't need that cut capacity very often. I did two builds where I used the KSS60 for everything, studs, boards and trim. Worked well but for smaller trim I would prefer a small mitre/chop saw. There is also a possibility that the KSS 50 is small or at least agile enough to replace the KSS 40 - and I would be happy if that was the case. But, the KSS 40 blades are reasonably priced and I have a few spares so just replacing my set up would be costly. Moreover I am not sure how the KSS 50 is shipping - probably a larger case with the short rail while the KSS 40 fits nicely with short rail and Flexirail in a SYS 4. With batteries, charger and spare blades. That is awesome, for sure.
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Post by calidecks on Jun 2, 2017 16:50:06 GMT -5
Got this email from Tobias today. Looks like we're close.
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Post by henrun on Jun 4, 2017 12:00:39 GMT -5
Good... good... (wringing hands in anticipation) It might arrive in time for me to put it to good use straight away - provided they have one to deliver and there are no delays.
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Post by calidecks on Jun 4, 2017 18:11:27 GMT -5
That price seems odd to me. Its half the price of the other cordless KSS saws.
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Post by rizzoa13 on Jun 4, 2017 18:37:24 GMT -5
That's probably the corded price not cordless. That would make more sense.
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Post by huntsgemein on Jun 5, 2017 0:56:47 GMT -5
Maybe naked ("pure") versions, i.e. sans batteries, charger, flexirail, parallel fence etc.?
I'm hoping that's the situation, as otherwise I'd have to pay duty on any import >AU$1000. I can certainly justify, and possibly even afford, the lowest priced version in a cardboard box. I can subsequently pick up a Bosch guiderail set with joiner & bag locally as finances allow. I already have the batteries & charger necessary, so it's rather pointless to double up.
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Post by henrun on Jun 5, 2017 10:43:33 GMT -5
Yes - I thought the price lower than expected. Not cheap (cough cough) but less steep. Probably the corded. The LiHD batteries add up to the tally quite a bit I think.
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