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Post by jm on Jun 2, 2015 12:49:44 GMT -5
So someone on the FOG posted this, Amazon UK is doing a buy 3, get one tool free sale.
Looks like they have Mafell stuff available that qualifies for this.
A DD40G MAXI 110v goes for $868 USD shipped, which is about $300 off what we would be able to get it at without importing. With a free tool, it could knock another $200 off the price if you split the savings of the free tool.
I don't need four tools right now (really only interested in the DD40G or the MT55cc, but Amazon doesn't list a MT55), would someone want to split the savings with me and get in on an order together? In 110v, they offer the P1cc, KSS300, KSS400, KSS80Ec, DD40G, MF26cc, K85Ec, KSP65F, KSP85F, MHU82, PSS3100E, and S25M.
I'd say USA/Canada only since shipping again overseas would probably add too much to the cost.
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Post by bb on Jun 2, 2015 15:20:04 GMT -5
So someone on the FOG posted this, Amazon UK is doing a buy 3, get one tool free sale. Looks like they have Mafell stuff available that qualifies for this. A DD40G MAXI 110v goes for $868 USD shipped, which is about $300 off what we would be able to get it at without importing. With a free tool, it could knock another $200 off the price if you split the savings of the free tool. I don't need four tools right now (really only interested in the DD40G or the MT55cc, but Amazon doesn't list a MT55), would someone want to split the savings with me and get in on an order together? In 110v, they offer the P1cc, KSS300, KSS400, KSS80Ec, DD40G, MF26cc, K85Ec, KSP65F, KSP85F, MHU82, PSS3100E, and S25M. I'd say USA/Canada only since shipping again overseas would probably add too much to the cost. I have some interest in a DD40, but not definite.
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Post by checkmax on Jun 2, 2015 15:29:37 GMT -5
So someone on the FOG posted this, Amazon UK is doing a buy 3, get one tool free sale. Looks like they have Mafell stuff available that qualifies for this. A DD40G MAXI 110v goes for $868 USD shipped, which is about $300 off what we would be able to get it at without importing. With a free tool, it could knock another $200 off the price if you split the savings of the free tool. I don't need four tools right now (really only interested in the DD40G or the MT55cc, but Amazon doesn't list a MT55), would someone want to split the savings with me and get in on an order together? In 110v, they offer the P1cc, KSS300, KSS400, KSS80Ec, DD40G, MF26cc, K85Ec, KSP65F, KSP85F, MHU82, PSS3100E, and S25M. I'd say USA/Canada only since shipping again overseas would probably add too much to the cost. I have some interest in a DD40, but not definite. I may have interest as well. Do you know what their shipping charges are? What state are you located and would you be willing to forward the relevant items? I assume the savings would be split pro rata by price of the other three items?
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Post by jm on Jun 2, 2015 15:53:27 GMT -5
Shipping charges are reasonable. So I did a test, 4x DD40G MAXIs would be $2570 USD shipped UPS Worldwide Saver (2-day), that works out to $642.50 each. And then add probably another $20 or so for me to forward to you. The "free" item is the most inexpensive item on the order, so if you get a P1cc, it'll be less savings than if you only got DD40s or KSS300s. bb, I'm local to you so I could just drop it off and avoid further shipping damage risk.
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Post by ohan on Jun 2, 2015 19:17:03 GMT -5
Can someone give me a non-electrician's summary?
To get UK 120v to work in USA requires : X,Y,Z
To get UK 220v to work in USA requires : X,Y,Z
If UK version is the same as TW version (or could be adapted w say, a custom extension cord), I would be interested in KSS400 or KSS80ec in either voltage. If either require hardware (transformer, etc) then would depend on prices; anyone else interested in KSS saws?
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Post by bb on Jun 2, 2015 19:25:03 GMT -5
Can someone give me a non-electrician's summary? To get UK 120v to work in USA requires : X,Y,Z To get UK 220v to work in USA requires : X,Y,Z If UK version is the same as TW version (or could be adapted w say, a custom extension cord), I would be interested in KSS400 or KSS80ec in either voltage. If either require hardware (transformer, etc) then would depend on prices; anyone else interested in KSS saws? I'm pretty sure you'd just cut the plug off and put a US plug on 120v. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by holmz on Jun 3, 2015 1:58:43 GMT -5
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Post by ohan on Jun 3, 2015 11:44:46 GMT -5
Sorry if these are basic "hobbyist" questions, but as I am a hobbyist I can't help it. I live in the U.S. All I need to use UK 110v tools is a new cord? Is 50 vs 60 hz a concern?
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Post by Red on Jun 3, 2015 14:59:56 GMT -5
Sorry if these are basic "hobbyist" questions, but as I am a hobbyist I can't help it. I live in the U.S. All I need to use UK 110v tools is a new cord? Is 50 vs 60 hz a concern? Based on my own experience with their tools, Ohan, Mafell usually installs universal motors. I won't bore you with an electrical theory lesson, but this means that the 10 cycle variance/difference between 50 and 60 Hertz (Hz) will not adversely effect normal operation of a power tool equipped with a universal motor.
Generally speaking, check the electrical specifications on any power tool and look for the word "universal" in reference to the motor.
Here, for example, are Mafell's technical specifications for their P1 cc Jigsaw:
Stroke height 26 mm No-load number of strokes 800-3000 1/min Nominal power input 900 W Weight 2,5 kg Universal motor 230 V / 50 Hz
By the way, our P1 cc is exactly as described above -- which includes the 230V/50Hz motor -- and it is being used in the US. All of our Mafell tools are, in fact, the 230V/50Hz versions.
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Post by jimh on Jun 3, 2015 19:33:45 GMT -5
Sorry if these are basic "hobbyist" questions, but as I am a hobbyist I can't help it. I live in the U.S. All I need to use UK 110v tools is a new cord? Is 50 vs 60 hz a concern? Based on my own experience with their tools, Ohan, Mafell usually installs universal motors. I won't bore you with an electrical theory lesson, but this means that the 10 cycle variance/difference between 50 and 60 Hertz (Hz) will not adversely effect normal operation of a power tool equipped with a universal motor.
Generally speaking, check the electrical specifications on any power tool and look for the word "universal" in reference to the motor.
Here, for example, are Mafell's technical specifications for their P1 cc Jigsaw:
Stroke height 26 mm No-load number of strokes 800-3000 1/min Nominal power input 900 W Weight 2,5 kg Universal motor 230 V / 50 Hz
By the way, our P1 cc is exactly as described above -- which includes the 230V/50Hz motor -- and it is being used in the US. All of our Mafell tools are, in fact, the 230V/50Hz versions. if ohan is looking for 110 volt models he can't purchase the 230 volt model.
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Post by ohan on Jun 3, 2015 19:40:50 GMT -5
Thanks. I asked because an electrician I know warned me that only items labeled "50/60" were usable in either frequency. I didn't mention "universal" to him, however.
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Post by jimh on Jun 3, 2015 19:49:32 GMT -5
ohan not intrude or imply, but from the content of your other posts this might be your first Mafell purchase Your electrical knowledge appears limited, as well. You might be best of purchasing from Timberwolf Tools for your first tool (or first Mafell). I too have consideration to importing the 110 volt UK models a few weeks. Decided against because it was a lot to gamble even though I was all but certain it would work with a new cord. What I did do us buy the tools I wanted in the US and then purchased my accessories from Germany at substantial savings. If I were to redo I probably would have bought the 230 volt versions which would work in the shop with no changes other than plugs as I have 230 volt outlets adjacent to 120 volt outlets. To use outside of the shop, voltage up converters are available or you make an 230 volt extension cord to get to a dryer outlet. Whatever you end up doing keep us posted.
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Post by ohan on Jun 3, 2015 20:15:03 GMT -5
Yes, I was thinking of "getting in on" the tool offer mentioned above as an entry point into Mafell at a substantial savings - though it may be a moot point as no one else seems interested in the KSS saws anyway. But as my electrical knowledge is non-existent I need to know I'm not buying a boat anchor. If the 110v (or 230v) UK tools are usable in the US with a new plug/cord, I would have one made (I'm not thinking of doing the work myself as my first electronics project). The tools would be used in a shop with both 120v and 240v power.
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Post by Red on Jun 3, 2015 22:39:57 GMT -5
if ohan is looking for 110 volt models he can't purchase the 230 volt model. I'm not sure that I understand this post. When I logged in earlier today, there was MUF member (Ohan) who didn't seem to understand what a universal motor was. I did my best to explain the difference -- without getting into too many details -- and, to finish things up, I wanted him to know that we use the alternative in the United States.
Everyone is free to choose whatever tool they want ... Do you think that I own stock in the 230V/50Hz version of Mafell Tools? I spend some of my free time here in an effort to share as much information as possible with people who've earned their knowledge by working for it -- that's it. Have a nice day.
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Post by Red on Jun 3, 2015 23:00:36 GMT -5
Yes, I was thinking of "getting in on" the tool offer mentioned above as an entry point into Mafell at a substantial savings - though it may be a moot point as no one else seems interested in the KSS saws anyway. But as my electrical knowledge is non-existent I need to know I'm not buying a boat anchor. If the 110v (or 230v) UK tools are usable in the US with a new plug/cord, I would have one made (I'm not thinking of doing the work myself as my first electronics project). The tools would be used in a shop with both 120v and 240v power. Ohan: Please click on the 'Messages' link (above) and check your Inbox.
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