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Post by GhostFist on Oct 1, 2013 10:57:09 GMT -5
While I don't own one I'm confident the mafell would outperform the trion in every aspect, the question here is do you need that much performance given the price difference? While the trion may not be as feature rich as the p1cc it certainly is a premium saw, and given the price you can't really go wrong with one. While I still drool over the mafell saw, the trion does what I need very well and this way I can save my money for other drool worthy items.
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Post by jalvis on Oct 1, 2013 14:54:58 GMT -5
Thats exactly where I am with the P1CC, GhostFist.
I'm trying to set a budget for a Large bandsaw. Hard to justify the cost if all my large cuts wont be on-site.
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Post by nyctinyshop on Oct 5, 2013 17:32:17 GMT -5
Some personal conclusions, after owning multiple jigsaws, including the Trion, the Carvex, and the P1cc...If you have the space and don't require a portable jigsaw, then buy at least a 14 inch bandsaw. If you have a restricted size shop and need a "portable bandsaw" (as I do), then buy the P1cc. With the P1cc, your blades will last longer, blade change is easier, dust collection is the best of any jigsaw on the market, and most importantly - you will have more control over the cut. My P1cc appears to be built so well, that it will most likely last most my lifetime and beyond. I hope that Mafell, in the very near future, offers a tilting plate that has dust collection capability.
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Post by stofke72 on Oct 6, 2013 14:26:54 GMT -5
Not sure if you have seen these:
and this one
Seems like the Mafell is stronger and faster but in the second video the cuts seems less square.
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Post by GhostFist on Oct 6, 2013 16:11:25 GMT -5
Yup, I've seen em. Those videos caused an uproar on FOG
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Post by 7 on Oct 6, 2013 20:13:56 GMT -5
I have seen them too...and read the FOG uproar....funny drama.
I have a lot more information and pictures to post about the P1cc. I will make another thread if I can figure out how. In short it is very positive information for us Mafell nerds. I did a bunch more cuts, crazy curved cuts, in another 4x4 DF post. This time to see if I would get perfectly square cuts with a long Festool Carvex blade.
Teaser: The Carvex blade sucks pretty bad. Unlike my last picture posts from earlier in this thread I got perfectly square cuts with the same Bosch blade that did not yield square cuts last time...and in crazier curves...and I'm talkin' perfectly square. I guess the first time (non-square) was a result of not having the orbital action turned on. I didn't even notice because of the saws power.
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Post by GhostFist on Oct 7, 2013 7:21:42 GMT -5
to create a new thread, click on the P1cc section, on the top right there should be a button to create a thread, and shoot! Ya keep posting all your findings, we're soaking it up!
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Post by beardman on Oct 8, 2013 18:28:18 GMT -5
Hi guys,thanks all for a great forum! A lot of information about Mafell product,especially P1cc,very nice! I'm also have two Jigsaws Trion and Bosch JS572,and none have a perfectly square cut on 4X4 post. Here in thread on FOG forum - festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tool-problems/trion-ps-300-out-of-square-cuts/Now,I have to decided to go with Mafell P1cc,I think I can make a perfectly square cut with this saw. P.S. stofke72 post two videos,look at the second video - 0:22 sec. ,is this just camera angle or cut is out-of-square? (don't know what blade was used on Mafell)
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