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Post by wolfhound on Oct 12, 2015 14:40:06 GMT -5
hahaha, my feelings exactly ! I have done another door since then and it went a bit better, a lot better actually. But I'm not convinced this thing is worth it. I'm not impressed with the so-called no dust hype either. Sure it's better than nothing at all, but no dust ? I don't know in which universe the Mirka ad people live in but it ain't the same as me :-)
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Post by jonathan on Oct 12, 2015 15:15:48 GMT -5
Wolfhound, I also own a Deros and I can't relate at all to the experiences you seem to have
I like it a lot better than my Festools.
Lighter weight, better control, sands faster, leaves less swirls and for me it is virtually dust free... I read you turn your suction down, the Deros doesn't need that. Maybe your dust problem is there?
Just goes to show how people and their opinions can differ I guess.
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Post by holmz on Oct 12, 2015 15:58:09 GMT -5
What voltage is your Deros wolfhound ? I might help you out if want to dispose of it... Having the UVA 115e it also likes the vacuum on full sucky/sucky mode with the screens. Conceptually I understand that the holey papers require less... Or the sanders that need holey papers probably need screen, but the air is still getting out and up through the holes, so I doubt that one can turn the suction up just by switching to screens. |
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Post by wolfhound on Oct 12, 2015 16:42:24 GMT -5
Jonathan, thank for the tip about suction. I'll try with it turned up and see how it goes.
Re. the overall quality, I don't know, maybe I was just expecting too much. As I said in an earlier post the only other sander I have is a 14 year old dead cheap Ryobi. No dust collection at all on that one but to be honest using it with some bog standard paper it did just a good a job as the Deros/Abranet combination.
Admittedly this job was pretty demanding (I would imagine). There must have been 4 coats of paint and least and the lowest seemed really thick and dusty. Almost like a coat of chalk on there. I did another door yesterday and it went much better at removing paint and getting to the wood, and this time I only had to use 2 Abranet disks for one side. I have to say that with a brand new disk, it eats down to the wood in no time with hardly any effort, but that doesn't last very long !
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Post by wolfhound on Oct 12, 2015 16:53:33 GMT -5
holmz, its a 240V. I'm not thinking of getting rid of yet quite yet. A friend of mine has a few Festool sanders, I'm going to borrow them so I can compare. A friend of mine who is a professional wood worker says the Deros is the best sander available. I havent had the chance to get his thoughts on this yet. I think I should have got the UVA 115 E  |
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Post by 7 on Oct 12, 2015 21:47:15 GMT -5
My experience with the Mirka sanders matches Jonathan's. I own a lot of different sanders and the Mirka ceros and deros are head and shoulders better than all the others. I just loaned my Ceros (because it's older than the Deros) to a friend and he finished the perimeter of his master bedroom wood floor with it. He commented and said the sander got the floor very noticably flatter and a more perfect finish than both of the other two bedroom that he did with other sanders. That's the normal feedback I get. Basically dust free for me too. I have even sanded drywall patches in finished homes with no dust.
I would have your good friend, the professional woodworker, take a look at yours and see if it perfoms the same as his.
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Post by holmz on Oct 13, 2015 6:56:45 GMT -5
holmz, its a 240V. I'm not thinking of getting rid of yet quite yet. A friend of mine has a few Festool sanders, I'm going to borrow them so I can compare. A friend of mine who is a professional wood worker says the Deros is the best sander available. I haven't had the chance to get his thoughts on this yet. I think I should have got the UVA 115 E I can assure you that I am fond of my 115e. And being sheltered I cannot see the hype about rotex and RO. I get stuck into with the 115e on a washboard looking surface of wood out of the planer from the timberyard and it is flat pretty quickly, then I hit it with 180 grit. All this is on setting ~3 usually. I think setting 6 goes to 22000 RPM, so it kind of is moving along faster. If I did not like using it so much, I would probably turn up the speed, but then I would not as much joy-time. So I have the 115e and a used Festool DX93, and some odds-n-ends. A belt sander would be nice to have, and a large pedestal disc sander always is useful... especially for metal. If you get displeased with the Mirka I would be interested, but I am not sure I need it. |
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Post by holmz on Nov 28, 2015 1:54:07 GMT -5
holmz, its a 240V. I'm not thinking of getting rid of yet quite yet. A friend of mine has a few Festool sanders, I'm going to borrow them so I can compare. A friend of mine who is a professional wood worker says the Deros is the best sander available. I haven't had the chance to get his thoughts on this yet. I think I should have got the UVA 115 E Here is your chance... I think I am going to order one, but if you want to offload yours, speak now. |
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Post by wolfhound on Dec 1, 2015 7:37:44 GMT -5
I don't think so. I think I was just too optimistic for that particular job.
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Post by holmz on Dec 1, 2015 17:13:00 GMT -5
have you used the UVA 115e yet?
I am wondering if I even "need" a round sander.
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Post by hemdale on Dec 5, 2015 13:56:28 GMT -5
I personally have a Deros 5650. The best for me was it can be held in one hand and is a good advantage when you are sanding a wall.
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Post by kraftt on Jun 23, 2019 10:47:20 GMT -5
Thought I would post here to ask if anyone has any feedback on the longevity of their Deros sanders ? There seems to be a vocal minority out there regarding failures.
I don’t perform much sanding at all but an upcoming project involves refinishing maple pony-wall cap (1x6) and a few built in cabinet maple tops as part of the job.
The 5”/125mm Deros seems to be the go-to (550XCV 5MM / 550CV 5,0). The NA website isn’t that forthcoming but I assume the 5”/125mm & 6”/150mm are identical machines except for pads and that pads are interchangeable (?)
After this job I’m not sure how much use it will get so it may be well out of warrantee by the time I put some miles on it.
Also wondered if anyone uses theirs for small ~ medium wall patch sanding and if they think it’s effective in this use?
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Post by jimbouk on Jun 23, 2019 11:55:58 GMT -5
Yes I have one and have had it since they first came out (4 years?) It went back for a repair under warranty after about a year. They dont like being forced or being used without extraction. That's what caused it to need repair. If used correctly for finish sanding they are excellent. I use it alot for drywall sanding as its light and has great extraction.
Dont expect it to perform the heavy duty work of a rotex though. It came with both 125mm and 150 mm discs and it's easy to switch them.
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Post by aas on Jun 23, 2019 13:48:57 GMT -5
I have three Deros, a 5650, a 625 and 353. Always used with dust extraction, fantastic sanders, no problems with them. Mainly used for solid surface finishing which is approx 10min per sq.m per grit, so when I'm using them, they really get used!
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Post by kraftt on Jul 10, 2019 17:55:31 GMT -5
I see Mirka Deros ‘kits’ with two pads (5”/6”) including boxes of abranet for pretty good deals in UK/Euro but not so much here. When I asked the local rep if I could buy the 5”/125mm Deros then slap a 6”/150mm pad on later he said “no”. He went on to say there is however a specific balanced 5”/125mm downsizing pad ( 9526GV130) you can buy that is designed to work with the 6”/150mm Deros. This 5”/125mm balanced downsizing pad though should not be used on a 5”/125mm Deros as it’s too heavy a pad for the motor (130g balanced downsizing vs 100g stock). Apparently the 5”/125mm Deros is balanced strictly for the stock 5”/125mm pad only and the larger 6”/150mm pad puts too much vibrational stress on the 5”/125mm motor. What I’m not sure about is if all this is just ‘training wheels’ because end users forget to swap out the counter balance screws I see demonstrated and burn up motors. My question for anyone who knows is if I do get the 6”/150mm Deros but primarily use the 5”/125mm downsizing weighted pad will I notice a different or less desirable sanding experience compared to the stock 5”/125mm Deros? Or is there any need at all for the downsizing pad as long as you remember to add / subtract counter balance screws? Rep also said 6”/150mm Deros with 6”/150mm pad was not so easy to handle (?) which sounded a bit ridiculous to me since you let the sander do the work. And if the rep has this right about motors and weight I wonder if slapping on a pad protector throws weight off again or are we only talking counter balance here? Is there that much of an advantage to having the 6"/150mm area vs the 5"/125mm in general use? |
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