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Post by jimbouk on Oct 15, 2014 8:49:42 GMT -5
Glad you got sorted. I dont think you will be disapointed at all with the deros. I am very happy with mine and love the abranet pads. Let me know if you want to get another yellow systainer that matches the deros and I will point you in the right direction.
Re the new festool ets sander. Had a play with it when the rep brought some other stuff to demo. It is quality. I am going off festool for a number of reasons at the moment but this is one solid product. However the price matches it! Very expensive imo.
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Post by jonathan on Oct 15, 2014 9:01:49 GMT -5
Hey the Deros is an awesome sander, so I'm pretty confident you'll like it. I do look forward to hearing your thoughts on it a few days though  |
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Post by lordbiscuit on Oct 15, 2014 16:05:28 GMT -5
Cheers.
Ah, yes jimbouk, how did you know I had a systainer fetish? I actually started buying systainers before any tools that actually come supplied in them. So yes, I'd love another yellow one for all the discs. I know a few sites that sell the coloured ones but they're a bit pricey so I've always bought grey and coloured latches. I found you can even take the latches apart and go two tone. What's your suggestion?
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Post by jimbouk on Oct 15, 2014 16:26:54 GMT -5
I have used vantainer. Small company always will sort out some kind of deal and good service. Best to call and speak to him on the phone. 0203 6918833
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Post by lordbiscuit on Oct 15, 2014 17:18:44 GMT -5
Ha! Craig! That's who I use. Yeah, he's great. Got my first batch when they just launched and he really did me a deal. You're right, best to phone. I'll be ordering some off him soon anyway.
I have seen the occasional mirka systainer pop up on eBay so you never know.... One fool's junk is another fool's gold!
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Post by lordbiscuit on Oct 17, 2014 6:11:51 GMT -5
If anyone's interested I just found you can buy branded mirka Sys 2 and 3 from Noble Abrasives.
Gonna order me a 3 for discs etc...
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Post by 7 on Oct 17, 2014 21:56:13 GMT -5
mafell-users-forum.freeforums.net/attachment/download/110I posted this picture on the forum quite a while ago. I have loved the setup. Only new discs are stored in the systainer, all that are lightly used but still have life left in them are put in the systainer with the sander. Just thought I would post since you are fixin' to put one together for yourself. I really like being able to see which grits I am getting low on at a glance instead of opening a box and finding that I need to interrupt work to run to the store.
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Post by lordbiscuit on Oct 20, 2014 9:37:53 GMT -5
Very nice. That's exactly what I had in mind.
I've ordered 2 Sys 3's from the mirka rep. I found I can just about fit the hose and deros into a Sys 3, another for the discs and use the original Sys 2 for bits.
I haven't had a good go on it yet as I'm taking a break to sort out workshop/studio/house but my first impressions are very good. So light and so silent. I'm definitely not disappointed so far!
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Post by tonya on Nov 2, 2014 4:03:50 GMT -5
Ok, so my impatience and panic got the better of me.... The mirka deal was running out so I had a good hard think.... The top selling point of the eva to me was the built in extraction. Then I realised that the only time I can't get a vacuum somewhere is probably the same time I wouldn't want to be holding a larger sander. And those moments are few and far between, and for those I can revert back to the worx if I HAD to. The second point was the vibration but I think I'm being unrealistic to imagine anyone has built a totally vibration free sander (but if one of you buy the eva and tell me that Mafell actually have I will certainly give myself a small kick in the shin). The edge guard I can live without, maybe I'll make one, or a spacer to fit the workpiece, or just be careful like always... So I bought the deros. It was too good a deal to miss and if I was paying full price for the kit (£499) then I'd be even more indecisive!!! The changeable pads and weight really swung it. I'll be sure to let you know what I think of it. Cheers for all your replies and cheers for the offer of a trial jimbouk. And if anyone buys the eva can they keep it to themselves for a month...  ? How did you rate the Deros I'm a floor guy so this machine ticks many boxes. 150 mm pad for final edge sand & 125 mm for risers really appreciate your views. Thanks Tony |
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Post by lordbiscuit on Nov 3, 2014 3:55:20 GMT -5
Afraid I'm still on my enforced break, been just getting my world in order so still not had a chance to put it through its paces. I've had a quick blast at some scraps lying around and although the vibrations are a little more than I expected they're still very low. It's a very quiet machine too and the controls are really nice. However I still haven't used it for an extended amount of time so can't say for sure. There's plenty of good testimonials out there though!
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Post by holmz on May 16, 2015 3:15:00 GMT -5
Ok, so my impatience and panic got the better of me.... The mirka deal was running out so I had a good hard think.... The top selling point of the eva to me was the built in extraction. Then I realised that the only time I can't get a vacuum somewhere is probably the same time I wouldn't want to be holding a larger sander. And those moments are few and far between, and for those I can revert back to the worx if I HAD to. The second point was the vibration but I think I'm being unrealistic to imagine anyone has built a totally vibration free sander (but if one of you buy the eva and tell me that Mafell actually have I will certainly give myself a small kick in the shin). The edge guard I can live without, maybe I'll make one, or a spacer to fit the workpiece, or just be careful like always... So I bought the deros. It was too good a deal to miss and if I was paying full price for the kit (£499) then I'd be even more indecisive!!! The changeable pads and weight really swung it. I'll be sure to let you know what I think of it. Cheers for all your replies and cheers for the offer of a trial jimbouk. And if anyone buys the eva can they keep it to themselves for a month... ? The EVA 115 is pretty vibration free. No unloaded, and some slight stuff on lower speeds where the abrading 'paper' seems to get traction before going in the reverse direction. It was 1:20 to 1-1/2 hours pretty much continuous and my hands were not numb. In fact the cold beer in them felt great at the end. |
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Post by holmz on May 25, 2015 6:44:23 GMT -5
I have used some 5" (125-mm) RO sanders which most recently was the cheapest Bosch I could get.
I suppose I should get stuck into a piece of Jarrah and compare the Bosch RO with the EVA 115, but in lieu of that...
What is the big deal with the RO sanders?
What exactly is it that makes people use those and swear by them?
And then what speed should one generally sand at?
When I did a stack of baseboards I turned down the speed to about 60% on the EVA 115 and it seemed to run through the material at a decent clip, and more importantly they remained flat and smooth. I used 100 grit from memory an took off ~0.3-mm as they still had the planning whoop-de-doos from decades prior.
I know it is sort of a kindergarten question, but sanding has never been something I enjoyed or really cared about.
I just wanted to get the rough marks out for finishing, and therefore never thought too much about the details, and it was just a step.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 25, 2015 12:51:15 GMT -5
Have to admit I still use the orbital style. My understanding is that random orbital gives a less obvious scratch pattern instead of loads of little scratch circle patter which can be found sometimes. Usually when I sand I flush any joints with the smoothing plane then do 120 and finish with 180. For myself it is just a step as well
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Post by jalvis on May 26, 2015 10:58:46 GMT -5
I have used some 5" (125-mm) RO sanders which most recently was the cheapest Bosch I could get. I suppose I should get stuck into a piece of Jarrah and compare the Bosch RO with the EVA 115, but in lieu of that... What is the big deal with the RO sanders? What exactly is it that makes people use those and swear by them? And then what speed should one generally sand at? When I did a stack of baseboards I turned down the speed to about 60% on the EVA 115 and it seemed to run through the material at a decent clip, and more importantly they remained flat and smooth. I used 100 grit from memory an took off ~0.3-mm as they still had the planning whoop-de-doos from decades prior. I know it is sort of a kindergarten question, but sanding has never been something I enjoyed or really cared about. I just wanted to get the rough marks out for finishing, and therefore never thought too much about the details, and it was just a step. RO(random Orbit) maintains an odd scratch pattern so its less visible. Lower speeds allow for less heat and slower removal of material. That becomes handy when removing paints and finishes. |
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Post by wolfhound on Oct 3, 2015 3:20:22 GMT -5
Not sure if this is exactly applicable to your search for the perfect sander. Have you considered the Mirka Ceros? I notice zero vibration and zero dust. You can literally drive it on the highest speed with one finger yet it is quite aggressive at removing material. I have sanded entire doors that had dark stain and a few coats of laquer on them in no time. I am guessing that you are aware of the Ceros and have already eliminated it from the running for one reason or another. Hello all, this is my first post here. I have recently developed a keen DYI interest - so I am a complete amateur newbie, you have been warned  !! I am interested in how much Abranet you needed to use for this job ? I have a Deros and am currently sanding doors that have about 3 coats of paint on, the lower of which seems to be quite thick and very hard. I have no idea how old it is. The Deros can cut through right down to the wood in no time at all - in one pass, and leaving the wood quite smooth. I'm impressed. However what I am not impressed with is the quantity of Abranet required. It is seriously being eaten up. No joke, I can sand about 50cm length of a (roughly) 10-11cm width and after the Abranet is finished, useless and I have to change. BTW I am using the standard p80 - I tried the HD but is doesn't seem to work as well. One thought I had was that I am using the 125mm disk on a narrower space, maybe the Abranet 'hitting' the side of the wood is somehow damaging it (the Abranet, not the wood). On another point about the Deros, I suppose those who are experiencing vibration are aware about the little balancing screws you can add/remove to help reduce vibration ? I have almost no vibration at all. Thanks in advance for your help !! |
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