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Post by aas on Feb 21, 2020 17:17:08 GMT -5
I had the HKC55, very nice saw. The plunge and lock mechanism is excellent. Motor sounds like a sewing machine, but has some guts. OK cutting up to the maximum depth, but not so much on damp timber. I shared blades with the TS55 I had at the same time, could get good results on sheet materials. Festool batteries not brilliant.
Not really fair to compare to the KSS40, maybe closer to the KSS50/60. The KSS40 is great saw, ideal for flooring... i.e. mainly crosscuts and the odd rip. It handles whatever you throw at it, very torquey with the small blade. This has become my 'beater' saw that stays in the van.
The KSS60 is more of a carpentry saw - just check out the (limited) choice of blades available. I've been impressed with the limited use I've given it.
The HKC is crossover between the two... if I could only have one cordless saw, it would probably be the HKC55 - as I have a few, the HKC has no place in my 100% (for cordless saws) Mafell line up.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Feb 22, 2020 0:36:14 GMT -5
I have both versions of the HK saws - they work really well and I like the plunge mechanism better than Mafell- kind of a hybrid plunge. The corded definitely has more power. The cost is much cheaper than Mafell equivalents in NA so I opted for them when FT was running a promo. I have the KSS80 which is in a class on its own, but too heavy for a daily driver. The smaller KSS or HK saws are better suited for that work. It seems like there are a fair number of reports of issues with the cordless Mafell lineup. Unfortunate. I would probably opt for corded if I were going Mafell.
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Post by citydecks on Feb 22, 2020 8:40:56 GMT -5
i had an hkc 55. Its was decent, but no way near as slick as the ks 40.....I hope this is not an issue moving forward... i bought the saw for its versatility mainly No issue in going forward. Timberwolf hot my kss40 yesterday. Said he'd work on over weekend and ship out Monday along g with evaluating. What's to evaluate.... It fried up like chicken. Was not beating. Cutting trex decking for chrissake. My buddy has 2 from Germany. Beats them daily cutting decking and pressure treated lumber. Its his most utilized tool. Cant see the cordles version being different I'd bought from Germany. My go to cordless is hilti. They are exactly the same in EUROPE as USA. |
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Post by brice on Feb 23, 2020 16:34:56 GMT -5
Hello everyone,
my saw is going to be completely repaired free of charge (except for my cost to ship the tool TO Timberwolf). I will talk to Dave on monday to go over what he thinks is the root cause of the failure.
he took pictures of the inside and it was VERY dirty with lots of saw dust and he made a special note emphasizing to me to ONLY use Mafell blades. I had purchased a Kay blade for use.
Not sure what wisdom will come from this, but I'm glad the tool will be back in my possession and I will correct any flaws to my methodology moving forward
Brice
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Post by citydecks on Feb 23, 2020 16:48:07 GMT -5
Hello everyone, my saw is going to be completely repaired free of charge (except for my cost to ship the tool TO Timberwolf). I will talk to Dave on monday to go over what he thinks is the root cause of the failure. he took pictures of the inside and it was VERY dirty with lots of saw dust and he made a special note emphasizing to me to ONLY use Mafell blades. I had purchased a Kay blade for use. Not sure what wisdom will come from this, but I'm glad the tool will be back in my possession and I will correct any flaws to my methodology moving forward Brice Same here. I got total new motor cpl of other things. |
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Post by aas on Feb 23, 2020 17:23:41 GMT -5
he made a special note emphasizing to me to ONLY use Mafell blades. I guess a motor could struggle with an inadequate blade leading to overloading, overheating etc.
The Mafell blades are very good, every time I try an alternative, I'm quickly disappointed by the lack of longevity; the Mafell blades do seem to stay sharp for longer. |
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Post by citydecks on Feb 23, 2020 17:25:28 GMT -5
he made a special note emphasizing to me to ONLY use Mafell blades. I guess a motor could struggle with an inadequate blade leading to overloading, overheating etc.
The Mafell blades are very good, every time I try an alternative, I'm quickly disappointed by the lack of longevity; the Mafell blades do seem to stay sharp for longer. I didn't have it long enough to even dull blade. |
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Post by aas on Feb 24, 2020 5:51:39 GMT -5
I didn't have it long enough to even dull blade. I hear what you're saying!.. but for a reseller/manufacturer to get a saw back with a different blade after a short period of time could suggest it's already done so much work the supplied blade has worn out...
I picked up a Key blade for my KSS40 - first few uses - wow this is fantastic, after a very short time I stopped using the KSS40 as I thought this is an over rated saw, it's not very powerful. Sent a load of blades in to be sharpened, and put the original unsharpened Mafell blade back on - it had already been used for a couple of years - still it was better than the Key that had limited use... restored my faith in the KSS40 and the excellent blades Mafell sell.
It's obvious using worn out or cheap blades puts added strain on a motor, if I was a manufacturer, would I want to guarantee a saw that had been pushed beyond it's limits with a cheaper blade purchased from the competition?.. probably not.
Not saying you pushed your saw too far, just bad luck for you!.. but I understand the comment that's it's best to use Mafell blades.
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Post by Knight Woodworks on Feb 24, 2020 10:01:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the updates, glad Timberwolf took care of you guys.
John
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Post by citydecks on Feb 24, 2020 14:49:32 GMT -5
Ok... moving forward vwho has kss50?
Might consider adding that. But I fear the extra weight 9.25lbs with out track. With track 12 .5lbs.
I'm sure that would blow through wet lumber and plastic decking.
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Post by citydecks on Feb 24, 2020 16:31:29 GMT -5
Ok... moving forward vwho has kss50? Might consider adding that. But I fear the extra weight 9.25lbs with out track. With track 12 .5lbs. I'm sure that would blow through wet lumber and plastic decking. Just chatted with Dave at TW. No evidence of abuse or neglect... his theory is that since I cut decking with 5-8 degree bevel that might be causing addition drag / wear towards the end. Just a theory. |
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Post by citydecks on Feb 24, 2020 16:32:37 GMT -5
Ok... moving forward vwho has kss50? Might consider adding that. But I fear the extra weight 9.25lbs with out track. With track 12 .5lbs. I'm sure that would blow through wet lumber and plastic decking. He's baffled to what made it fail. In all of his 28yrs this is the 2nd mystery fail with maf. |
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Post by aas on Feb 25, 2020 7:50:42 GMT -5
The KSS40 is more torquey than the bigger saws thanks to it's smaller blade. What tooth count blade have you been using for ripping the deck?.. and what thickness is it?
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Post by citydecks on Feb 25, 2020 8:17:36 GMT -5
The KSS40 is more torquey than the bigger saws thanks to it's smaller blade. What tooth count blade have you been using for ripping the deck?.. and what thickness is it? The stock blade it came with....cant remember. He said the blade was still sharp/ good. |
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Post by citydecks on Feb 25, 2020 8:18:27 GMT -5
The KSS40 is more torquey than the bigger saws thanks to it's smaller blade. What tooth count blade have you been using for ripping the deck?.. and what thickness is it? The stock blade it came with....cant remember. He said the blade was still sharp/ good. Hassle or no hassle I'll be buying another soon. I'll need a 2nd to use on large commercial job |
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