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Post by jalvis on Jan 6, 2014 14:44:34 GMT -5
Power is your friend. Most commercial shops start at 7.5 HP table saw motors due to safety and accuracy. From conversations and research its clear that more power is rarely a negative and often times aids in safety since the blade remains in motion and is less likely to pinch or slow down.
This is why I think the 80 is better for plunge cuts. I would really like to try some bevel cuts with the 80 on the tracks and compare it to the MT 55 in the same application. My estimation is the 80 will really shine in those situations.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Feb 23, 2014 15:33:25 GMT -5
This looks like an amazing saw. Would love to see some videos of it in action. Well done!
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Feb 24, 2014 0:36:25 GMT -5
Woodie - just curious what prompted you to get this saw over the other KSS models? Did you have a specific application in mind that you felt the plunge saw would not work well?
Thanks
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Post by checkmax on Aug 6, 2014 2:40:13 GMT -5
Is Woodie the only person who owns this saw on this site? I'm interested in the many questions that were asked pertaining to "work coverage"? This saw coupled with the MT55 definitely covers a wide range of applications; however where does the overlap start? I don't think the MT55 is practical off the guide rail and it's unclear to me when the KSS80 becomes (or KSS400 for that matter) impractical?
Anyone with hands-on experience with either or both of these saws?
Thanks
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Aug 6, 2014 11:12:52 GMT -5
Yeah Woodie is the lucky one. The kss 400 starts to become impractical if you are doing a cut roof and forming the valley or the hip end and your compound angle is over 45. Then the kss80 is more suited to the task. Also if you are cutting only 2x then the kss 400 be it the corded or cordless is more suited. I would like the kss80 it's just a lot of money. I have the ksp85 which will do for now. What thickness of there do you predominantly work with or what sort of work do you do the most of
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Post by checkmax on Aug 6, 2014 13:01:43 GMT -5
Agreed.
Kss80 is pricey. Equal to a Kss 400 and a MT55. Does that mean I can cut everything from sheet goods to 4x? I think so. I think the line of impracticality is cutting 2x where one could free hand the kss400 but would need support with the 80. Is the extra $1000 worth the difference in the long run?
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Aug 6, 2014 13:15:22 GMT -5
If you work with a lot of timber over 50mm. Where you have to flip the timber then the time saving using kss80 would off set the price. In time saved. Do you have a chop saw.
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Post by checkmax on Aug 6, 2014 13:48:17 GMT -5
Good question.
I do not have a chop saw.
At one point I was considering a kapex, but I'm thinking with the accuracy of the KSS system and my current table saw (Bosch 4100) which has proven pretty accurate and reliable so far, I'm better off with a kss.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Aug 6, 2014 14:27:59 GMT -5
I don't have a chop saw I used to have a dewalt 716 I think can't remember the number. Since getting the kss saws I have never thought I wish I still had the chop saw. If you don't have chop saw I would maybe lean to the kss 400. The kss80 is on the pricey side there is also the k85 maybe worth a think about. What sort of work do you mainly do
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Post by GhostFist on Aug 6, 2014 15:15:51 GMT -5
The 80 is badass but built for big timber. I'd love one but can't really justify it as it's so rare these days that I'm cutting anything that large. If you're doing skirting or crown is when you really need a chop saw, but I'll let Aaron sell you on an Erika.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Aug 6, 2014 17:42:55 GMT -5
He'll think I'm trying to bankrupt him. The Erika is a really nice luxury.
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Post by checkmax on Aug 7, 2014 1:23:34 GMT -5
Well, I'm not a carpenter. Hobbyist really who has started making odd things around the house. I had custom bathroom vanity replaced because of termites and realized I could do this myself (I'll probably regret thinking that). Anyway with a toddler and newborn in the house, time and priorities have shifted. I'm selling some toys - cars, bikes, motorcycles and figure I could invest a few quality tools. From what I've seen with Festool they hold their value and my assumption is Mafell does the same. It's like a Patek Philippe watch - hold it for the next generation - haha.
Anyway my intended uses are broad. Currently the odd cabinet/shelving, carriage doors for the garage, a play set and a storage shed. The house I live in now has 140 true 3x6 rafters. I and another guy spent 3 weeks cutting and fitting each of them. Looking at these tools, we probably could have done it 3 days easily paying for it. I have another house lined up and was steering away from the open beam ceiling but now I'm rethinking it given what I'm seeing.
Like I said I'm not a carpenter, this isn't my living. I like quality things that work. Not sure if the Erika is on that list though I don't see it sold in the US. Timber wolf doesn't carry it?
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Post by GhostFist on Aug 7, 2014 4:35:24 GMT -5
ooooh you can get one, if you can part with 5grand
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Post by questa on Aug 7, 2014 9:36:01 GMT -5
Ah...it's only money and sounds like he is trading one set of toys for another. If I had known about the Erika 10 years ago I would have been better off. Ya it is expensive but a joy to work with and very accurate. It is also very portable so moving it from house to house is easy. Timberwolf does not stock them, you order it and Mafell makes it. Takes a bout a month.
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Post by questa on Aug 7, 2014 9:37:52 GMT -5
oh ya forgot to add, since I got the Erika my Kapex seems to be mostly gather dust. I not gonna sell it but would not have bought it if I already had the Erika....so you can consider that as well.
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