Power is your friend. Most commercial shops start at 7.5 HP table saw motors due to safety and accuracy. From conversations and research its clear that more power is rarely a negative and often times aids in safety since the blade remains in motion and is less likely to pinch or slow down.
This is why I think the 80 is better for plunge cuts. I would really like to try some bevel cuts with the 80 on the tracks and compare it to the MT 55 in the same application. My estimation is the 80 will really shine in those situations.
Is Woodie the only person who owns this saw on this site? I'm interested in the many questions that were asked pertaining to "work coverage"? This saw coupled with the MT55 definitely covers a wide range of applications; however where does the overlap start? I don't think the MT55 is practical off the guide rail and it's unclear to me when the KSS80 becomes (or KSS400 for that matter) impractical?
Anyone with hands-on experience with either or both of these saws? Thanks
Post by wrightwoodwork on Aug 6, 2014 11:12:52 GMT -5
Yeah Woodie is the lucky one. The kss 400 starts to become impractical if you are doing a cut roof and forming the valley or the hip end and your compound angle is over 45. Then the kss80 is more suited to the task. Also if you are cutting only 2x then the kss 400 be it the corded or cordless is more suited. I would like the kss80 it's just a lot of money. I have the ksp85 which will do for now. What thickness of there do you predominantly work with or what sort of work do you do the most of
Agreed. Kss80 is pricey. Equal to a Kss 400 and a MT55. Does that mean I can cut everything from sheet goods to 4x? I think so. I think the line of impracticality is cutting 2x where one could free hand the kss400 but would need support with the 80. Is the extra $1000 worth the difference in the long run?
Good question. I do not have a chop saw. At one point I was considering a kapex, but I'm thinking with the accuracy of the KSS system and my current table saw (Bosch 4100) which has proven pretty accurate and reliable so far, I'm better off with a kss.
Post by wrightwoodwork on Aug 6, 2014 14:27:59 GMT -5
I don't have a chop saw I used to have a dewalt 716 I think can't remember the number. Since getting the kss saws I have never thought I wish I still had the chop saw. If you don't have chop saw I would maybe lean to the kss 400. The kss80 is on the pricey side there is also the k85 maybe worth a think about. What sort of work do you mainly do
The 80 is badass but built for big timber. I'd love one but can't really justify it as it's so rare these days that I'm cutting anything that large. If you're doing skirting or crown is when you really need a chop saw, but I'll let Aaron sell you on an Erika.
Well, I'm not a carpenter. Hobbyist really who has started making odd things around the house. I had custom bathroom vanity replaced because of termites and realized I could do this myself (I'll probably regret thinking that). Anyway with a toddler and newborn in the house, time and priorities have shifted. I'm selling some toys - cars, bikes, motorcycles and figure I could invest a few quality tools. From what I've seen with Festool they hold their value and my assumption is Mafell does the same. It's like a Patek Philippe watch - hold it for the next generation - haha.
Anyway my intended uses are broad. Currently the odd cabinet/shelving, carriage doors for the garage, a play set and a storage shed. The house I live in now has 140 true 3x6 rafters. I and another guy spent 3 weeks cutting and fitting each of them. Looking at these tools, we probably could have done it 3 days easily paying for it. I have another house lined up and was steering away from the open beam ceiling but now I'm rethinking it given what I'm seeing.
Like I said I'm not a carpenter, this isn't my living. I like quality things that work. Not sure if the Erika is on that list though I don't see it sold in the US. Timber wolf doesn't carry it?
Ah...it's only money and sounds like he is trading one set of toys for another. If I had known about the Erika 10 years ago I would have been better off. Ya it is expensive but a joy to work with and very accurate. It is also very portable so moving it from house to house is easy. Timberwolf does not stock them, you order it and Mafell makes it. Takes a bout a month.
bengt: Oh please the ks60 is better in every way. 60 degree miter in both directions. Bevels past 45(essential in a saw that must cut on the flat) Bigger blade more capacity. The Metabo hpt has 57 degree miter max and 45 bevel max.
Sept 9, 2019 20:02:24 GMT -5
abdon: I stand corrected , the angle fence is only attaches with F -Tracks , what confused me was , that the Timberwolf site mentioned it will work with the NFU machine, yes it will work but only I guess when you use the Ftrack , with other tracks Like the KSS L.
Nov 28, 2020 22:52:01 GMT -5
glynnco: Did you order from GereedschapPro? I see them as in stock but I'm located in the US and am not sure if they ship here. I sent them an email asking about shipping but it was returned undeliverable...
Dec 10, 2020 7:37:40 GMT -5
jonathan: I've purchased a lot of stuff from our neighbours @ GereedschapPro.nl As far as I know they are one of the larger Mafell dealers in the EU. I can recommend them, they usually respond quickly.
Dec 11, 2020 13:58:36 GMT -5
NFU 50 Transportation?: Hi Guys, is there some Systainer for the NFU 50?
Dec 11, 2020 14:30:12 GMT -5
frezik24: Hello everyone
Dec 13, 2020 9:20:00 GMT -5
lasse: Thanks for the tip! I have own a mafell rail which is 160 cm and one that is 80 cm. Will it work just as well or will I need to buy rail that is 110 cm?
Mar 18, 2021 15:35:15 GMT -5