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Post by bavanor on Jan 12, 2014 19:57:01 GMT -5
Oh stupid things. Not clamping 2x down while cross cutting. Putting a clamp to high when cutting on end, so when saw got near clamped area, kickback. If you plunge before saw gets up to speed.
Almost always happens because in a hurry. You just have to remember that this saw is powerful, and think through your cut.
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Post by 7 on Jan 12, 2014 22:12:28 GMT -5
As for the original question of which saw is better, to me the obvious answer is the Mafell. It is hard to find anyone on Festools own website (Festool Owners Group) that is willing to claim that the TS55r is the better saw. Discussions where FOG members are comparing the two saws end up getting closed by the moderator. Same deal with the Jigsaw comparisons, hard to find anyone that claims that any of the Festool jigsaws are better than the P1CC. Motor to motor, feature to feature, cut to cut Mafell comes out ahead.
You can find a few features such as LED lights etc, legendary customer service, and local brick & mortar shops for festool but it is very rare to find someone willing to fight the battle of better. For the record I have had only positive customer service from Mafell (Timberwolf Tools).
I have quite a few Festool tools as well and really like the company, nothing negative to say.
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Post by taylorkitchens on Jan 13, 2014 11:50:17 GMT -5
Mt55cc with 2 1.6 rails, connector a and clamps ordered Excited! used my very first plunge saw today, work mate lent me his makita one to fit the kitchen I was fitting, strange feeling but good results
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Post by GhostFist on Jan 13, 2014 11:54:31 GMT -5
Nice one you wont be sorry. I think the comparisons members posted were fair. Please keep in mind that none of us work for or are formally affiliated with mafell, we're just carpenters. Feel free to ask any questions about your new tool and the crew will do our best to make sure you get your money's worth.
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Post by taylorkitchens on Jan 13, 2014 12:24:18 GMT -5
That's great thank you for your help for helping me choose what's best for me for starters
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Jan 13, 2014 12:54:53 GMT -5
Nice one as well you won't regret buying it as you do mainly kitchens I think you went with the right choice getting the mt55 the kss400/36v would be good for not having cables etc but is more suited to first fix it will do kitchens as a one off, is expensive. Where the mt55 more geared towards what you do with laminated panels work tops etc I have spoke to the uk rep for mafell today saying that you might be interested in trying some of the tools and having a trial really nice guy will help you out with things if you ever have a problem with the saw will let you have a machine to use whilst getting fixed. The mafell agents in the uk is nma they are a family business. Like ghostfish says none of us any conections to mafell or any agents but if any of us can help will do
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Post by taylorkitchens on Jan 13, 2014 13:38:33 GMT -5
thats great wright, so are they the ones to go to when/ if it has any problems or back to my retailer?
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Jan 13, 2014 14:15:21 GMT -5
You can go to the retailer or the retailer sends to nma also to help help you get a discount at times. The retailer orders mafell through nma agencies they don't order direct from mafell in germany. Your retailer will have demo machines and if don't ask they will be able to get. Hopefully shouldn't ever need to send back bit is nice that a spare machine can be lent out if needed
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Post by taylorkitchens on Jan 13, 2014 15:37:20 GMT -5
Nice, I like it
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Post by jonathan on Jan 13, 2014 19:41:08 GMT -5
I look forward to reading your first hands-on impressions
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Post by 7 on Jan 14, 2014 1:24:50 GMT -5
By the way there is a discussion in the rails section about a really good price on a rails package that includes 2 bosch rails (identical to mafell in every way besides color & logo) with a storage bag and a rail connector. Several of us on the forum have ordered the set after a member posted the link. Shipping is fast and the cost savings is significant. For working with 4x8 sheet goods it is nice to have at least 3- 1.6 rails so you can leave two connected for the long direction rip cuts and have one that is not joined for the short direction cross cuts. Here is the link so you don't have to search through the forum for it. www.toolstop.co.uk/bosch-fsn-plunge-saw-guide-rail-kit-including-fsn-1600-x-2-fsn-bag-fsn-vel-p62216
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Post by sgtrjp on Jan 14, 2014 6:54:51 GMT -5
I'm surprised to see the rails back in stock. Not as cheap as they were, but still a great price
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Post by neth27 on Jan 14, 2014 14:40:49 GMT -5
As for the original question of which saw is better, to me the obvious answer is the Mafell. It is hard to find anyone on Festools own website (Festool Owners Group) that is willing to claim that the TS55r is the better saw. Discussions where FOG members are comparing the two saws end up getting closed by the moderator. Same deal with the Jigsaw comparisons, hard to find anyone that claims that any of the Festool jigsaws are better than the P1CC. Motor to motor, feature to feature, cut to cut Mafell comes out ahead. You can find a few features such as LED lights etc, legendary customer service, and local brick & mortar shops for festool but it is very rare to find someone willing to fight the battle of better. For the record I have had only positive customer service from Mafell (Timberwolf Tools). I have quite a few Festool tools as well and really like the company, nothing negative to say. Im on FOG and said i think the Mafell is the better saw, i have owned both. (sold the Festool) I got accused of being a Mafell dealer on there `john...
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Post by jalvis on Jan 15, 2014 11:15:16 GMT -5
I'm finding myself participating less and less on the FOG. Theres still very good information but only if you agree. Its also important to remember that many of the members are hobbyists and really think of tools differently as it applies to function, durability, and time. Like most things you take it for what it is.
I'm grateful to have forums to learn from as well as all the options for tools. Since the USA doesn't have any real apprenticeship programs its up to each individual to learn whats needed.
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Post by jmccollom on Jan 15, 2014 16:27:13 GMT -5
How do you all go about breaking down plywood sheets properly ? I am really interested in the MT55 and combining it with a MFT for building cabinets, but it seems like without parallel guides, your initial cuts may be off which which would just propagate itself through subsequent cuts.
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