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Post by thehandyman on Apr 24, 2018 21:16:10 GMT -5
I modified the excellent Festool bag to work on the Makita 36v track saw. It, however, would not work for bevels. The Mafell bag works excellent on the Makita 36v track saw.
I wonder if the Festool dust bag and connection could be modified to work on the Mafell track saw. I don't have one to test though.
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Post by sawpoint on Apr 23, 2019 1:58:47 GMT -5
Hello there...
I'm sawpoint from the UK...,Its nice to find somewhere to get advice & hints & tips on mafell products...
I have the kss 40 & the mt55bl...
& I do love them to bits,we all know how very well made & designed they are,& when you feel & see & use them,you do think to yourself,woah...this really is top notch precision stuff...
But....
I do have a little gripe with both of my saws,well its a gripe to me anyway,& I can't seem to find any other information on this...?
& I wanting clarify if my saws have some kind of little issue,or am I just expecting way too much?
Every now & again,whilst making a cut & on either saw,theres what I have now began to call,a little bit of "blade chatter"...
It's reasonably intermittent...,but it can leave a perfect dished blade score marks on both sides of the cut\work pieces..
Leading to just skimming another mm or so off,to clean it up...
I have found a video of a guy just demonstrating his kss50bl I reckon,ie not necessarly highlighting this issue,just having a blast & he does do a full length & full depth rip cut,so I know it's going work the machine pretty hard..(it doesn't really show it in a shining light to be honest,as it's eats half of the extra capacity metabo battery doing it).,but if you listen,im sure you'll hear these,what I call blade chatter's,like high pitched snaps...& if your swift enough,you'll see these slightly dished type scores on the face of the cuts...
Now both of my saws do this from time to time,im mostly an 18mm kinda guy,so no where near as much as the saw in the video,but they both do sometimes do this....so basically my question is...
Is this right?
Should these saws be doing this chatter?
& do any of your guys saws do this?
I know under load the pitch & torque of the motor/saw will change,but surely it should still maintain a general fluid cut...
Because to me,it's kinda like a slip or vibration?
Could it be a brushless thing?
Or again...is it just a case of...
Me just expecting way too much of a fluid cut,every single time?...
I'd appreciate any input or advise on this topic if possible?
Thanks for reading
sawpoint...
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Post by mattj on Apr 23, 2019 7:58:05 GMT -5
I get the same thing. I stopped worrying about it since overall cut quality is on par or better than other circular saws I've used, but it would be nice if it could be avoided.
Curious to hear more about this.
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Post by henrun on May 5, 2019 12:47:27 GMT -5
Hello there... I'm sawpoint from the UK...,Its nice to find somewhere to get advice & hints & tips on mafell products... I have the kss 40 & the mt55bl... & I do love them to bits,we all know how very well made & designed they are,& when you feel & see & use them,you do think to yourself,woah...this really is top notch precision stuff... But.... I do have a little gripe with both of my saws,well its a gripe to me anyway,& I can't seem to find any other information on this...? & I wanting clarify if my saws have some kind of little issue,or am I just expecting way too much? Every now & again,whilst making a cut & on either saw,theres what I have now began to call,a little bit of "blade chatter"... It's reasonably intermittent...,but it can leave a perfect dished blade score marks on both sides of the cut\work pieces.. Leading to just skimming another mm or so off,to clean it up... I have found a video of a guy just demonstrating his kss50bl I reckon,ie not necessarly highlighting this issue,just having a blast & he does do a full length & full depth rip cut,so I know it's going work the machine pretty hard..(it doesn't really show it in a shining light to be honest,as it's eats half of the extra capacity metabo battery doing it).,but if you listen,im sure you'll hear these,what I call blade chatter's,like high pitched snaps...& if your swift enough,you'll see these slightly dished type scores on the face of the cuts... Now both of my saws do this from time to time,im mostly an 18mm kinda guy,so no where near as much as the saw in the video,but they both do sometimes do this....so basically my question is... Is this right? Should these saws be doing this chatter? & do any of your guys saws do this? I know under load the pitch & torque of the motor/saw will change,but surely it should still maintain a general fluid cut... Because to me,it's kinda like a slip or vibration? Could it be a brushless thing? Or again...is it just a case of... Me just expecting way too much of a fluid cut,every single time?... I'd appreciate any input or advise on this topic if possible? Thanks for reading sawpoint... Answered this in the other thread on the topic: 
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Post by henrun on May 5, 2019 12:50:11 GMT -5
If it was possible to run the saw faster across I think the cut quality would have been better but unfortunately the cordless saws are prone to stalling if you push them hard on rip cuts. The corded ones fair better. I think with the same blade the corded saws will make a slightly better cut in deeper stock.
My Bosch GKT55CE and the Mafell MT55cc both give better results though they are intended for different work.
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Post by mafellme on Aug 22, 2020 14:06:37 GMT -5
As a current MT55cc (230v) owner, getting increasingly irritated with the cable, and looking longingly at the MT55 18 BL, with the intention of a possible future purchase, I'm intrigued to see how the Bosch GKT18V-GC 18v 140mm BITURBO Brushless Plunge Saw will compare to it. Too early to see many reviews, but I'll be watching with interest. If anyone finds any worthwhile comparisons/reviews, please post them (or let me know privately, if you prefer). Thanks.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Aug 22, 2020 16:43:02 GMT -5
Check out the Concord Carpenter - he did a full review of Festool, Mafell, Bosch, DeWalt and Makita. Very good review in my opinion. On Your Tube and a written article. www.youtube.com/user/concordcarpenter |
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Aug 22, 2020 16:48:53 GMT -5
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Post by holmz on Aug 22, 2020 17:39:10 GMT -5
As a current MT55cc (230v) owner, getting increasingly irritated with the cable, and looking longingly at the MT55 18 BL, with the intention of a possible future purchase, I'm intrigued to see how the Bosch GKT18V-GC 18v 140mm BITURBO Brushless Plunge Saw will compare to it. Too early to see many reviews, but I'll be watching with interest. If anyone finds any worthwhile comparisons/reviews, please post them (or let me know privately, if you prefer). Thanks. I just wrap my arm around the cable and hose like Mae West does with a boa.  |
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Post by mafellme on Aug 22, 2020 18:04:34 GMT -5
As a current MT55cc (230v) owner, getting increasingly irritated with the cable, and looking longingly at the MT55 18 BL, with the intention of a possible future purchase, I'm intrigued to see how the Bosch GKT18V-GC 18v 140mm BITURBO Brushless Plunge Saw will compare to it. Too early to see many reviews, but I'll be watching with interest. If anyone finds any worthwhile comparisons/reviews, please post them (or let me know privately, if you prefer). Thanks. I just wrap my arm around the cable and hose like Mae West does with a boa. And where do you insert your batteries? |
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Post by HenRun on the Run on Aug 23, 2020 1:58:49 GMT -5
As a current MT55cc (230v) owner, getting increasingly irritated with the cable, and looking longingly at the MT55 18 BL, with the intention of a possible future purchase, I'm intrigued to see how the Bosch GKT18V-GC 18v 140mm BITURBO Brushless Plunge Saw will compare to it. Too early to see many reviews, but I'll be watching with interest. If anyone finds any worthwhile comparisons/reviews, please post them (or let me know privately, if you prefer). Thanks.
Having owned the Mafell MT55 18 BL and still owning the Mafell MT55cc and the Bosch GKT55CE I would say that the benefit of going cordless largely depends on your main type of material you need to cut down: sheet goods, planks, benchtops etc.
With that I of course factor in the performance difference between the corded/cordless which is insignificant with most sheet goods but in some cases noticeable, though for the most part still workable.
The MT55 is a great piece of kit and I could almost get by with it alone. But not quite. If you could see yourself keeping the MT55cc for the tougher cuts and can justify the extra cost of the cordless you are definitely set.
For me I mostly use the KSS40 18M on site and if needed I bring the MT55cc.
I have handled the new Bosch and it is very well built (though I have not cut anything with it). I like the design and ergonomics and if I were in the market today for a single battery tracksaw this might be it. Judging on cost, battery platform and availability of accessories and blades etc.
For me personally, I would not mind a tracksaw on another battery platform than the other ones I have even if I would prefer to have as much as possible on a joint battery platform. With the MT55 18M bl I found it good enough to warrant that stand alone (well, shared with the KSS40) platform.
You could get a Metabo multicutter (pretty good) and jigsaw (pretty ok) for chump change to round off the kit to fit more of your sawing needs and have them all run with the current crop of Metabo LiHD batteries.
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Post by holmz on Aug 23, 2020 3:13:15 GMT -5
... And where do you insert your batteries? I use wall power, and let's focus on the hose and cord problem Wrap it around your arm. And remember... Good fashion never goes out of style. |
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Post by mafellme on Aug 23, 2020 6:25:06 GMT -5
Having owned the Mafell MT55 18 BL and still owning the Mafell MT55cc and the Bosch GKT55CE I would say that the benefit of going cordless largely depends on your main type of material you need to cut down: sheet goods, planks, benchtops etc.
With that I of course factor in the performance difference between the corded/cordless which is insignificant with most sheet goods but in some cases noticeable, though for the most part still workable.
The majority of my tracksaw usage is on-site, with sheet goods, flooring, and kitchen worktops. Cutting thick solid timber is something I do do occasionally, but it's only about 5% of the work I do.
Given that I already own an MT55cc, The KSS40 18M has crossed my mind as a potential alternative to an MT55 18 BL, and it looks beautifully compact. I'm just wary of the reported issues of the motor mysteriously dying, for some people, and I wonder if it would satisfy me now that I am so familiar with the accurate plunging etc. of the MT55cc.
Like most of us, I gave up on the idea that enough research could lead me to find a single battery platform that would cater for all my needs. In 2020, it just doesn't exist, unless one is willing to accept compromises for the performance of certain powertools, since no manufacturer produces top-performing tools in all categories. It's a pain in the a$$, but it's just the way it is.
I'm hopeful that the Cordless Alliance will continue to expand (in particular, I wish Fein would jump onboard, but I sorta respect that they don't want to pull the rug out from under customers of their existing cordless platform).
In any case, after I posted my curiosity about the new cordless Bosch tracksaw, last night, I encountered another thread, right here on MUF, that reported some German early adopters getting angry about shortcomings of the tool:
Perhaps another time, in another thread (since I don't want to derail this one too much), we could discuss the pros and cons of the KSS 40, in comparison to the MT55 saws, as I'm not averse to giving the KSS 40 serious consideration.
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Post by henrun on Sept 3, 2020 10:20:57 GMT -5
mafellme: I had a KSS40 give up on me, as mentioned in an earlier thread on the forum. It went bleep bleep and nothing else. Apparently the motor had "blown" which is strange considering it was not pushed very hard at the moment of failure. It had been some tough going earlier for the KSS 40 but all work was "within specs" so to speak.
After being fixed it has put a slight dent in my trust for the machine. Much as I would like to recommend it there is a lingering doubt.
It is still a great little companion and I will be renovating a house that we are moving into in a few weeks time and I am hoping it will run the full gamut of flooring, panels and such with ease. Bigger stuff will be premade in the workshop and I will probably not use it for pressure treated wood when I do the decking next year: for that I have the Festool HKC55 as a go to saw, with a limited set up of rails.
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