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Post by holmz on May 22, 2018 21:31:01 GMT -5
Well I can see why there is a 600nm model...
I picked up a used 4x4 in Perth, and figured I would use it. The LED I use a lot.
For the lug nuts I get the whopping big wrench that is a two handed job and get teh nuts loose.
Then the impact to unspin them.
On is similar, with spin on and then either the lug wrench, or a torque wrench.
I am not sure it has all that much more torque than the A10M, as that drill (in 4wdr-low) seems to have some torque...
The 400 does rattle things, but for a low torque and moving a nut, it rattles a lot and moves it slowly.
I am not seemingly overjoyed, but when I get on the end of a wrench I look around for it.
So I think it is probably about right.
I doubt I would find the 200 enough... I think you may want the 400.
I would get a lug nut socket... and bring your car... and then try both...
Unless you have a better example for a demo run.
I need a sausage gun and wanted to stay Metabo/Mafell platform for the batteries rather than deWalt, Milwaukee or something else.
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Post by HenRun on the Run on May 23, 2018 2:58:46 GMT -5
My Colleague has the sausage gun and it is quite amazing how much caulking/glazing you get done on one battery. I don’t know whether he runs an 18V caulking gun or the 10.8V one (or both) but we actually discussed a few days back when he was glazing heaps of windows. It might be the 10.8V he was squeezing that time.
I am a bit surprised you don’t find the 400 powerful enough - or more surprised it doesn’t pack enough of a punch for most tasks when it comes to car assembly/discombobulation as it was the impression I got after seeing the praise on YouTube. It is always good to get reports from various sources. And you are right, the 600 beast is made for a reason.
We’ll see how the 200 pans out.
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Post by holmz on May 23, 2018 9:02:15 GMT -5
My Colleague has the sausage gun and it is quite amazing how much caulking/glazing you get done on one battery. I don’t know whether he runs an 18V caulking gun or the 10.8V one (or both) but we actually discussed a few days back when he was glazing heaps of windows. It might be the 10.8V he was squeezing that time. I am a bit surprised you don’t find the 400 powerful enough - or more surprised it doesn’t pack enough of a punch for most tasks when it comes to car assembly/discombobulation as it was the impression I got after seeing the praise on YouTube. It is always good to get reports from various sources. And you are right, the 600 beast is made for a reason. We’ll see how the 200 pans out. If you find out whether it is the 10.8V or the 18V sausage gun, that would be great. The 200nm is probably enough, but the old used 4x4 is large and the bolts and buts are not overly silky...  |
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Post by henrun on May 23, 2018 13:21:16 GMT -5
I'll be in the workshop all day tomorrow and will have a look at which caulking gun he was using. I am pretty sure it was the 10.8V when I think of it. He showed me the battery gauge when he was done and now I do remember it was a 10.8V battery.
What I am not sure of is if he has both the 18V and the 10,8V - if he does I will ask him which one he prefers.
After glazing a pretty substantial bunch of windows with small muntins (and many panes per window) he dropped only two bars from a fresh battery. That was impressive but I don't know how many Ah it was.
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Post by jm on May 24, 2018 9:45:39 GMT -5
I've had the 400 BL for a few years now, use it everywhere including working on cars, to driving longer screws and I don't want to wait for the 200 (brushed) to do it's job.
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Post by holmz on May 24, 2018 14:39:00 GMT -5
I've had the 400 BL for a few years now, use it everywhere including working on cars, to driving longer screws and I don't want to wait for the 200 (brushed) to do it's job. Good way to put it. The 400 is not exactly a jackrabbit, so the 200 would be slower. ˜˜˜˜˜ i'll be using Sika in a caulking gun. If they (Metabo) made a grease sun in 10.8 or 18V I would likely get one, but will go for air. |
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Post by holmz on Jun 6, 2018 1:20:23 GMT -5
I'll be in the workshop all day tomorrow and will have a look at which caulking gun he was using. I am pretty sure it was the 10.8V when I think of it. He showed me the battery gauge when he was done and now I do remember it was a 10.8V battery. What I am not sure of is if he has both the 18V and the 10,8V - if he does I will ask him which one he prefers. After glazing a pretty substantial bunch of windows with small muntins (and many panes per window) he dropped only two bars from a fresh battery. That was impressive but I don't know how many Ah it was. I am leaning towards the 300ml caulking tubes now. The Sika 252 is pretty much like a relatively hard peanut butter. If your friend has insight that would be great... So I am sort of leaning towards the 18v, but not more than 60%. The 18V was ~7000n (700kg-force) and the 10.8V is 4400n (450 Kg-force) If you could ask him... 1) Does his 10.8V ever seem like it is not enough? 2) Or is it always more than enough? Tak! |
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Post by henrun on Jun 6, 2018 14:21:12 GMT -5
Will ask as soon as I can, met him yesterday and we talked literally an arms length from both machines...
I think his main machine is the 10.8V machine and glazing putty is pretty hard to squeeze out so my bet is that both will do a great job unless the sausages are really cold - if so the stronger machine will do better.
Will make an effort to remember to ask!
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Post by thehandyman on Jun 8, 2018 0:56:09 GMT -5
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Post by huntsgemein on Jun 8, 2018 7:46:47 GMT -5
Handyman, can you slide the battery off & get a piccie of the type plate underneath pls?
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Post by thehandyman on Jun 8, 2018 7:53:48 GMT -5
Handyman, can you slide the battery off & get a piccie of the type plate underneath pls? What do you need? I read it but did not get a photo of it today. Made in China just the same as the Hitachi triple hammer. I'll be opening the clamshell up to see what's inside and how it compares to the triple hammer. I've also got a phone call scheduled with the product manager of Metabo North America to discuss it. |
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Post by henrun on Jun 8, 2018 14:54:35 GMT -5
I'll be in the workshop all day tomorrow and will have a look at which caulking gun he was using. I am pretty sure it was the 10.8V when I think of it. He showed me the battery gauge when he was done and now I do remember it was a 10.8V battery. What I am not sure of is if he has both the 18V and the 10,8V - if he does I will ask him which one he prefers. After glazing a pretty substantial bunch of windows with small muntins (and many panes per window) he dropped only two bars from a fresh battery. That was impressive but I don't know how many Ah it was. I am leaning towards the 300ml caulking tubes now. The Sika 252 is pretty much like a relatively hard peanut butter. If your friend has insight that would be great... So I am sort of leaning towards the 18v, but not more than 60%. The 18V was ~7000n (700kg-force) and the 10.8V is 4400n (450 Kg-force) If you could ask him... 1) Does his 10.8V ever seem like it is not enough? 2) Or is it always more than enough? Tak! Hey Holmz! Asked my colleague about the Metabo caulking gun today. It turned out he only uses the 10.8V (!) and sofar it has served him very well, even when the sausages have been a little cold and slow going. Batteries last very long on the 10.8V and power has never been an issue for him. He does run Metabo 18V gear and should he ever wear that 10.8V out he might go for the 18V but mostly out of curiosity. The 18V I thought was a Metabo was a Makita that he never uses. |
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Post by henrun on Jun 8, 2018 14:55:19 GMT -5
Handyman, can you slide the battery off & get a piccie of the type plate underneath pls? What do you need? I read it but did not get a photo of it today. Made in China just the same as the Hitachi triple hammer. I'll be opening the clamshell up to see what's inside and how it compares to the triple hammer. I've also got a phone call scheduled with the product manager of Metabo North America to discuss it. Look forward to hearing what he has to say. And do tell him they need to slim them grips down. |
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Post by thehandyman on Jun 8, 2018 14:57:40 GMT -5
What do you need? I read it but did not get a photo of it today. Made in China just the same as the Hitachi triple hammer. I'll be opening the clamshell up to see what's inside and how it compares to the triple hammer. I've also got a phone call scheduled with the product manager of Metabo North America to discuss it. Look forward to hearing what he has to say. And do tell him they need to slim them grips down. Fat grips for sure. Germans have big hands. |
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Post by holmz on Jun 9, 2018 0:58:49 GMT -5
... Asked my colleague about the Metabo caulking gun today. It turned out he only uses the 10.8V (!) and sofar it has served him very well, even when the sausages have been a little cold and slow going. Batteries last very long on the 10.8V and power has never been an issue for him. He does run Metabo 18V gear and should he ever wear that 10.8V out he might go for the 18V but mostly out of curiosity. The 18V I thought was a Metabo was a Makita that he never uses. Hej Hej Henrun, That does it, I'll get the 10.8v. Tak! |
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