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Post by holmz on Sept 23, 2016 3:40:06 GMT -5
Used google.de and google.com.au and get nothing for "Bosch 1274DVS".
I have/had an old hitachI (i think) unit with a frame to use on floors.
Ideally a unit that I could "upside/down" (Like Stranger Things) would be nice, but it seems cheaper to buy a bench unit and a regular belt sander.
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Post by rizzoa13 on Sept 23, 2016 16:54:11 GMT -5
Your actually In the upside down Holmz, stranger things was a metaphor for life in Australia.
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Post by holmz on Sept 23, 2016 22:34:38 GMT -5
Your actually In the upside down Holmz, stranger things was a metaphor for life in Australia. OK L, err I mean T. |
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Post by GhostFist on Sept 24, 2016 14:23:31 GMT -5
Stranger things was just ok IMO. I don't get what everyone loved about it.
Oh Ya, belt Sanders.. ....
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Post by lincoln on Sept 24, 2016 18:25:09 GMT -5
Nostalgia, probably.
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Post by holmz on Sept 24, 2016 18:38:34 GMT -5
Some nostalgia, and there is a not a great deal that seems good (IMO).
So I liked it a lot.
A few on SBS mostly from Scandinavia "The killing", The Bridge" and the those along with the"The Tunnel" all seem to be a twist on "Girl with the the Dragon Tats" along the Aspergers spectrum.
There was a three part "Skin walkers" that was interesting on NetFix.
We finished "The Five" (UK) and it was OK, but we both thought a bit weak.
In movies, the US version/copy of "Let the right on in" was about as good as the Swedish one.
Noe of those have a thing to do with belt sanders.
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Post by reflector on Sept 25, 2016 1:23:12 GMT -5
Used google.de and google.com.au and get nothing for "Bosch 1274DVS". I have/had an old hitachI (i think) unit with a frame to use on floors. Ideally a unit that I could "upside/down" (Like Stranger Things) would be nice, but it seems cheaper to buy a bench unit and a regular belt sander. The Bosch and Ryobi were from the same era, I included images of them in the attachments with the Metabo BA E 1075. That was why I immediately recognized the Bosch, it was compared against the Ryobi unit of the era for its shape. Last I heard the Bosch unit was available up until somewhere 2010+... Maybe 2013? It also had a stand and fence attachment that would allow you to invert it the fence acted as a stop. It does appear to be available in the 220V version: shop.bosch-professional.com/gb/en/product/belt-sander-gbs-75-ae--5825I have just heard that you cannot source a 110V armature for the North American version anymore. That's somewhat annoying given the unit was formerly available and suddenly the North American version is discontinued due to the armature being unavailable. Otherwise I can only assume the parts between the units are effectively the same which would make this a little seem like a stupid business decision on Bosch's part. That or there was some legalanese that occured in the background that I haven't heard about, which now I suspect is more of the case given how Festo/ol bought out Reich and did some really low moves. |
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Post by huntsgemein on Sept 25, 2016 3:35:52 GMT -5
There was once, many many years ago a Reich-made Bosch 75mm belt sander. A clone of the Festool. This was replaced by Bosch's own Swiss Scintilla licenced version, the tool we are all familiar with, in PBS & GBS versions.
Current Bosch PBS sanders are now dodgy asian cheapies, but originally distinguishable from their GBS brethren only by colour (green, not Blue) a slight drop in wattage (in common with most of Bosch's Swiss-made tools at the time) and a single speed variant (although there WAS for a brief time a PBS75AE v/s variant) as the only difference between DIY & Pro grade tools. How times have changed! There's now an enormous gulf between the two levels of quality!
For what it's worth, there was also in the USA market a 110v 60hz (nominal) Holz Her clone marketed as an AEG some years ago too. I can recall a nostalgic posting about it from a North American subscriber in another Fora. It too had all the fruit salad: 1kw. input, v/s etc. This might make a reasonable 2nd. hand buy/restoration job.
A belt sander's job is not a difficult one. The bits that most commonly wear are toothed belts, platens & carbon brushes. The former 2 are universal to the Festo sanders & its clones, the latter (voltage specific??) can be carved by hand at a pinch from larger versions if required. Other wearing parts are bearings - again universal to all & easily obtained from a variety of sources and... that's about it. It would be highly irregular & unusual for there to be any damage to such an understressed armature, and the field coils & inner bearings are labyrinth or gasket sealed from harmful dust too.
The only danger is if some clown has let a gear or motor bearing seize & spin in the plastic housing, which is to all intents & purposes a terminal affliction. Generallly, the overall poor condition of a tool so thoughtlessly maintained should be obvious to the casual observer anyway. I've found it useful from time to time to open up geared devices like belt sanders, grinders etc. & redistribute the grease over the (even sealed) bearings, gears etc. to enhance longevity. The generous grease packing will otherwise normally outlast the tool. Continuous hard running at low speeds MIGHT cause heat damage, but you'd have to be a particularly ham fisted operator not to notice the tool protesting this treatment.
In this regard, maybe a green Scintilla Bosch PBS might be a safer second hand buy. I've never really understood the need for variable speed on sanders..... I just do a Spinal Tap & turn 'em all the way to 11 on the dial! OK, slow speeds for coarser grits maybe, but this means more loading with less power = greater current loads on the coils!
Bosch for many years also produced a pretty good 4" X 24" belt sander from its USA factory too. Big, heavy, bold & brassy, packing around 1200w & in its 240v iteration was a pretty powerful & reliable heavy duty workhorse. I expect there's oodles of these available in 110/115v stateside on flea-bay, craig's etc.
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Post by antihero on Dec 17, 2016 6:50:10 GMT -5
Belt sanders seem to be bought for the versatility - you can make a stand for it and use it as a compact yet powerful stationary sander - either on it's side (so you can use the rounded part too) or vertically. Then there is also the sanding frame option. People seeem to love the Makita 9404 so that's what I got recently but haven't used it yet. It's 100 x 610mm, 1010w, still made in Japan
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Post by mafelluser on Apr 23, 2017 12:34:12 GMT -5
Depends what kind of work you want to do with a belt sander - if you want to clean up stainless steel AND do well with heavy stock removal on timber, then my vote is for the 9404 variable-speed 100mm / 4" belt sander, from Makita. It's bloody robust (as are their 1/2" routers, from memory). When you look at how much some other firms are charging, the 9404 is a relative bargain. I used one (or it's forerunner) back in the mid 90s, cleaning-up a load of stainless steel, and some timber staircases and external hardwood doors, and I was very impressed with how much torque it had, excellent reliable belt-tracking, and just overall great performance.
That's not to say that belt sanders beat RO sanders for everything - of course they don't. But the Makita 9404 is very good for rough stock removal or for cleaning-up SS or other metals. If you do go with this, then be sure to buy the cloth sanding belts' not the paper ones, as the cloth ones seem to handle clogging and de-clogging of the abrasive, more proficiently.
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Post by holmz on Apr 23, 2017 23:44:41 GMT -5
Depends what kind of work you want to do with a belt sander - if you want to clean up stainless steel AND do well with heavy stock removal on timber, then my vote is for the 9404 variable-speed 100mm / 4" belt sander, from Makita. It's bloody robust (as are their 1/2" routers, from memory). When you look at how much some other firms are charging, the 9404 is a relative bargain. I used one (or it's forerunner) back in the mid 90s, cleaning-up a load of stainless steel, and some timber staircases and external hardwood doors, and I was very impressed with how much torque it had, excellent reliable belt-tracking, and just overall great performance. That's not to say that belt sanders beat RO sanders for everything - of course they don't. But the Makita 9404 is very good for rough stock removal or for cleaning-up SS or other metals. If you do go with this, then be sure to buy the cloth sanding belts' not the paper ones, as the cloth ones seem to handle clogging and de-clogging of the abrasive, more proficiently. I would like one with a frame so that I could put a 320 or 400 grit on it and run it across veneer... Or put 60 on it (with the frame) for flattening a solid peice of myrtle for a table. |
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Post by holmz on Apr 24, 2017 5:14:03 GMT -5
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Post by yetihunter on Jan 8, 2018 1:14:16 GMT -5
So, Holmz, did you buy an AEG sander with Festool written on it or nah? |
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Post by yetihunter on Jan 8, 2018 1:23:02 GMT -5
Used google.de and google.com.au and get nothing for "Bosch 1274DVS". I have/had an old hitachI (i think) unit with a frame to use on floors. Ideally a unit that I could "upside/down" (Like Stranger Things) would be nice, but it seems cheaper to buy a bench unit and a regular belt sander. You searched oz and deutscheland for a USA only model number. But you knew that, you cheeky monkey. |
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Post by holmz on Jan 10, 2018 8:06:46 GMT -5
So, Holmz, did you buy an AEG sander with Festool written on it or nah? It is the third one down in the pictures. maybe it is an AEG, but the badge says Festool. I feel more comfortable if it was made by AEG  |
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