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Post by holmz on Jan 8, 2016 0:39:26 GMT -5
They drove a GT40 near Solvang once, and did other naughty works. The GT40 LOLA chassis is interestng. However I gravitate more to the others that I cannot afford like the Quattro, Stratos, etc or accessable sports cars. I was forunate enough to do 8 laps 3 years ago at the Nurburg-ring.
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Post by Red on Jan 8, 2016 0:43:06 GMT -5
They drove a GT40 near Solvang once, and did other naughty works. The GT40 LOLA chassis is interestng. However I gravitate more to the others that I cannot afford like the Quattro, Stratos, etc or accessable sports cars. I was forunate enough to do 8 laps 3 years ago at the Nurburg-ring. I've seen races from "The Ring." What were you driving?
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Post by holmz on Jan 8, 2016 11:34:06 GMT -5
A Suzuki Swift with a cage from rent-4-ring. It was under powered but the deductible was only 4k Euros. It was foggy, wet, sunny, leaf encrusted all on the same lap, do a bit of a puckering drive. Much like around Yellowstone on the snow. But I passed 2 Audi R8s 2 GT3/997, and a Ducati 997 (or is it 998?) which decided to go on a break dancing sabbatical....which says more about them than me. (I was 2 feet on the throttle and a single big toe breaking... FWD is nicer in the wet than the dry) Stayed a Sabine's (Ad Ursula's) Hotel Am Tier Garten.
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Post by Red on Jan 8, 2016 12:17:38 GMT -5
Who needs TDI hybrids or e-tron quattros when you can just take on Le Mans with a Swift?
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Post by holmz on Jan 8, 2016 12:30:23 GMT -5
1/2 the guys I know said that they would be embarrassed in a swift and the other half smiled and said good choice.
I think Le Mans could have less turns than the ring, and if so, then one probably needs more HP (kW)...
While I like an under powered car, for power tools I like them 230v.
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Post by Red on Jan 8, 2016 12:34:29 GMT -5
....While I like an under powered car, for power tools I like them 230v. I'll see your 230 and raise you 10.
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Post by holmz on Jan 8, 2016 12:51:24 GMT -5
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Post by toomanytoys on Jan 8, 2016 12:51:42 GMT -5
Great. The thread has degraded to a bunch of guys comparing who has the biggest electrical potential.
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Post by Red on Jan 8, 2016 12:57:45 GMT -5
Great. The thread has degraded to a bunch of guys comparing who has the biggest electrical potential. Hey, I promise it was all about cars just a few posts back...honest.
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Post by dam8 on Apr 7, 2017 19:40:04 GMT -5
I thought I was nuts back in 1990 when I bought my erika 55. I look back now and wish I bought the 65 as well. It still performs well to this day
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Post by rricha04@gmail.com on Aug 18, 2017 15:29:05 GMT -5
I bought the two Mafell tools I have through a friend in germany, and even with shipping I paid about half the US price.
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Post by huntsgemein on Aug 18, 2017 19:35:18 GMT -5
I'm guessing that much of any intercontinental price disparity is down to the tool's engineering. Whilst Mafell do engineer tools specifically for the North American, British "industrial" & maybe even Japanese?? markets, this production is small in comparison to their more "traditional" markets. Yet to do so requires substantial & I dare say expensive reengineering of all internal componentry, switchgear, speed control circuitry, fields & armature looms etc. This won't come cheaply.
For the rest of us all the modification required may be merely a change of plug on the end of the lead. Hardly any expense at all. If as a manufacturer you need to reengineer every 20th, or 50th, or even 100th tool on your production line, then of course it's going to be expensive.
The only alternative is to make every single tool user pay for these small number of "special" tools by amortising the expense across all tools. Or as is the case in Australia with at least one other rather notorious German manufacturer, charge poor, dumb, ignorant Oz & New Zealand consumers for the expense of specialist tool manufacture for rich North American hobbyists & British tradies. We have the unique "privilege" of paying some 150-1000% extra to help subsidise the rest of the world's bargain basement (in comparison) prices.
This is not a reference to Mafell in this instance. M don't export their wares to the Antipodes. Any purchases we make are through 3rd party retailers offshore or the second hand market.
I'm sorry if I seem a trifle miffed with this set of circumstances, but when I hear tales of woe about exhorbitant North American prices I wonder what the reaction from said consumers might be if they had to pay up to 10 times as much for their tools as we're occasionally obliged to do.
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Post by holmz on Aug 18, 2017 21:06:53 GMT -5
... Or as is the case in Australia with at least one other rather notorious German manufacturer, charge poor, dumb, ignorant Oz & New Zealand consumers for the expense of specialist tool manufacture for rich North American hobbyists & British tradies. We have the unique "privilege" of paying some 150-1000% extra to help subsidise the rest of the world's bargain basement (in comparison) prices. ... Does the high price go to Germany? When I was a wood working, or some craft convention, on Southbank in Melbourne ~6-10 years ago... There was a booth with ProTool and Festool. There was 1/2 dozen smiling executives and sales persons. If we multiply the 10:1 population ratio of the US:Australia, that would translate to 60+ Festool employees in America alone. Plus there is Mexico on the other side of the wall, and the 'Great White North' as known as Canada. So there may be a higher overhead charged to support the basic company infrastructure in Australia... Which gets passed on per tool. That said, I doubt that if they sold as many Festools in Australia as the US... that there would be a reduction in the price. The whinging about Festool tool prices in North America is something we have little tolerance for in Australia. (basically the colour, like a green traffic light, means keep moving) On the flip-side the Mafell prices here on tools under 1k$ don;t get VAT going out of the Eu and do not get GST coming in, so we enjoy about the cheapest Mafell prices in the world. And basically light a red traffic light, it is easy to stop the search with Mafell or Lamello. The Mirka out of Finland, completes the analogy as it is yellow...
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Post by bb on Aug 30, 2017 8:17:40 GMT -5
... Or as is the case in Australia with at least one other rather notorious German manufacturer, charge poor, dumb, ignorant Oz & New Zealand consumers for the expense of specialist tool manufacture for rich North American hobbyists & British tradies. We have the unique "privilege" of paying some 150-1000% extra to help subsidise the rest of the world's bargain basement (in comparison) prices. ... Does the high price go to Germany?..... I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no. Festool tools aren't imported to Australia through TTS (Festool's parent company), but rather an independently owned company. You have them to thank for your pricing.
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Post by Sawdustedsun on Mar 19, 2020 18:39:37 GMT -5
See you at harbor freight, not!!!
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