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Post by lincoln on Jun 22, 2015 1:12:31 GMT -5
A beast of a tool, Red!
Made in Japan, by the look of the label?
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Post by Red on Jun 22, 2015 1:18:03 GMT -5
Good call, Lincoln. Yes, it was imported from Japan and it's one of our [many] Makita tools.
By the way, I wouldn't normally make a statement like that about a competing tool brand, but I've recently been assured that we should all feel free to discuss any and all tools that we use to make a living with.
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Post by holmz on Jun 22, 2015 3:01:48 GMT -5
By the way, I wouldn't normally make a statement like that about a competing tool brand, but I've recently been assured that we should all feel free to discuss any and all tools that we use to make a living with.[Sarcastic]I was not aware that there was a Mafell über alles on here? it is nice to be able to compare and contrast the tools. |
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Post by Red on Jun 22, 2015 3:17:38 GMT -5
I'm not much on the turn that capitalism has taken, Holmz, so I'm very hesitant when it comes to anything even resembling the promotion of a business entity. As soon as a few bucks are involved, unfortunately, a conversation can change very quickly.
When I start citing brand names on a forum like the MUF, it just might appear that I'm affiliated with a tool manufacturer or distributor. You happen to know that I'm not, but I wouldn't want anyone else to think otherwise ... I trust that you understand my reticence and, more importantly, that you abide ... because I do.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Jun 22, 2015 4:18:43 GMT -5
Truthfully as you all know none of us has any conections with any manufacturer it's more about choosing and using the tools that fit our needs be it mafell or any other manufacturers tools
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Post by holmz on Jun 22, 2015 7:08:51 GMT -5
Truthfully as you all know none of us has any conections with any manufacturer it's more about choosing and using the tools that fit our needs be it mafell or any other manufacturers tools Exactly, and if we were affiliated it would be even worse (as Red mentioned). I like to know some bought X instead of Y or visa versa to help me work through the trade space. |
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Jun 22, 2015 7:26:28 GMT -5
Must admit I'm not not into having mafell stickers or t-shirts or hats etc as far as I'm concerned the tools work for me. Not I work for brand. Always look like a sales rep I feel and I have no intention of becoming one of them. I fo like to stick with companies I'm happy with and get looked after buy
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Post by ohan on Jun 22, 2015 9:16:11 GMT -5
Did you consider the chain mortisers, or were the sizes too limiting? What size chisels do you use most often?
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Post by Red on Jun 22, 2015 12:55:04 GMT -5
Welcome to the thread, Ohan. It's a nice to converse with you about actually cutting wood.
We do own a German chain mortiser, but, as the previous 5 or 6 posts have addressed, up until very recently, I've been hesitant to mention the names of other tool brands (especially German TF tools).
The chain mortiser we've owned for quite some time is the Protool CMP 150. As you can see (below), it is VERY similar to the Mafell LS 103 Ec, but no matter how many similarities there are, it doesn't have a CUprex motor ... does that remind you of anything? 
![Protool CMP 150]() 
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Post by Red on Jun 22, 2015 13:11:19 GMT -5
Did you consider the chain mortisers, or were the sizes too limiting? What size chisels do you use most often?
![]() By the way, the 2" Barr was used quite a bit to finish the joinery on trestle pony No. 1 (1 of 2), which is shown here: Trestle Pony No. 1 |
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Post by holmz on Jun 22, 2015 15:36:40 GMT -5
So the Makita does one fixed size mortice?
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Post by ohan on Jun 22, 2015 16:13:09 GMT -5
It's my understanding they take a variety of sizes of chisels - down to insanely small ones you can custom order from Japan. According to Chris Hall (linked to upthread), the max size is 36mm, while he personally only runs a 24mm to avoid overly stressing the machine. I was wondering which sizes Red used in his machine.
In a related note, do you layout your joints in inches, or metric? Something tells me you're not doing shaku..
The Protool chain mortiser shown cuts across the grain, while the Mafell cuts with the grain. Was there a reason you prefer one over the other?
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Post by Red on Jun 22, 2015 20:28:58 GMT -5
So the Makita does one fixed size mortice?
By the way, I mistakenly thought that Ohan was asking about framing chisels -- not cutters for the Makita mortiser. |
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Post by Red on Jun 22, 2015 20:45:40 GMT -5
In a related note, do you layout your joints in inches, or metric? Something tells me you're not doing shaku.. The Protool chain mortiser shown cuts across the grain, while the Mafell cuts with the grain. Was there a reason you prefer one over the other?
The only chain mortiser that I know of that cuts with the grain, ironically enough, is the Makita 7104L. I've owned this machine in the past and, quite frankly, there's no comparison to the Makita or the Protool mortisers -- which are virtually identical in every way (except for the motor and the chain bar oiler). The cross-grain chain mortisers are far more stable and, consequently, more accurate than the Makita. In addition, the inherent stability of the cross-grain machines makes them much faster to use. All of this is based on my own hands-on experience and is, therefore, my personal opinion. |
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Post by Red on Jun 22, 2015 23:01:41 GMT -5
Everything starts at the beginning ...
It may seem a bit unorthodox, but, if I had to rank our tools by order of importance to the overall operation, this "tool" would rank right up there near the top of the list. After all, we wouldn't have many timbers to work with if we didn't have something capable of forwarding and loading sawlogs onto the mill deck ... It also comes in real handy when there's foundation work to do ...
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