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KSS80 or K85 Jan 3, 2015 0:15:30 GMT -5

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Post by 7 on Jan 3, 2015 0:15:30 GMT -5

Very cool saw. Your video skills are cool too.

I am specifically impressed by two things: 1- The saw looks very manageable, not too large...I was a bit surprised by that. 2- That was a thick piece of walnut but looking at how high the center of the blade was it became obvious that it was a shallow cut for that saw...also evident by the fact that the motor sound didn't change a bit while cutting.

Thanks for taking the time, I haven't seen any video of that saw doing real work.

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KSS80 or K85 Jan 3, 2015 2:50:35 GMT -5 7 likes this

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Post by MrToolJunkie on Jan 3, 2015 2:50:35 GMT -5

Thanks, 7. I am really happy with this saw so far. It is the right tool for what I need at the moment, so glad I opted for it first. I am really impressed with the roller edge guide - so easy to set and dead-nuts accurate. Easier to just cut with the base and not have to mess with rails and the cuts are all just perfect. This saw was not even breathing hard. Now, Walnut as you know is not as dense of wood as hard maple or oak so not sure if it would be any different cutting other species, but my guess is that it will handle anything I throw at it. In terms of handling, it is pretty well balanced. It has heft and mass, so while it could get tiring lifting this around all day, I think that the weight is also an asset making for smooth cuts - you just kind of push it along and it does its thing.

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7 God Posts: 711	KSS80 or K85 Jan 4, 2015 1:44:26 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 7 on Jan 4, 2015 1:44:26 GMT -5 I think you'd have to throw a lot more than 8/4 oak, maple, hickory etc at it to get it to breath hard. Maybe some 16/4 Ipe:) I assume the roller edge guide isn't compatable with the KSS400. Do you know if that's correct?

MrToolJunkie God Posts: 1,014	KSS80 or K85 Jan 4, 2015 2:00:27 GMT -5 jonathan and 7 like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by MrToolJunkie on Jan 4, 2015 2:00:27 GMT -5 You can get a roller edge guide for the 400 - it is the same one as the MF26 and it also works with the MT55. The one for the 80 is a different size than the 400/26/55.
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KSS80 or K85 Jan 4, 2015 7:34:57 GMT -5

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Post by thedude306 on Jan 4, 2015 7:34:57 GMT -5

Jan 4, 2015 1:44:26 GMT -5 7 said:

I think you'd have to throw a lot more than 8/4 oak, maple, hickory etc at it to get it to breath hard. Maybe some 16/4 Ipe:)

I assume the roller edge guide isn't compatable with the KSS400. Do you know if that's correct?

I too am impressed with the look of the size of that saw. I expected it to be a lot larger.

I have the roller edge guide for the MF26 coming for my Kss400 and MT55. It is suposed to fit all three machines but the graduation scale is not correct for the Kss400 or the MT55. I minor inconvenience. I don't have it in hand yet, but their may be a way to remedy that with some machine work...

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wrightwoodwork God Posts: 1,656	KSS80 or K85 Jan 4, 2015 8:30:21 GMT -5 via mobile MrToolJunkie and wiz1258 like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by wrightwoodwork on Jan 4, 2015 8:30:21 GMT -5 It's properly just a case of adding a mark on the base to correspond

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KSS80 or K85 Jan 4, 2015 15:25:26 GMT -5

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Post by MrToolJunkie on Jan 4, 2015 15:25:26 GMT -5

Yep -- the graduations on the guide are laser etched and uber accurate. You just need a mark that corresponds with the saw base. On the 80 there is a slight dimple and you measure to the edge of that dimple. Or just go old-fashioned and use a square or tape to measure from the fence to the tooth - which is what I end of doing anyway as I am often cutting non-metric.

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KSS80 or K85 Jan 7, 2015 21:36:31 GMT -5 via Tapatalk

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Post by jasonkehl on Jan 7, 2015 21:36:31 GMT -5

I finally got back to work with the intention of using my new KSS 85, but it doesn't like cold weather (-31 Celcius). It made a strange clicking noise and would barely turn the blade. I had to use the old Skil wormdrive to get through the day. The good news is that the KSS85 worked fine once it was warmed up. Tomorrow is supposed to be warmer (-17) hopefully the 85 will work. The KSS 400 worked fine today though. Thought I would share this in case any potential buyers work outside in the winter...

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KSS80 or K85 Jan 7, 2015 21:50:30 GMT -5

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Post by 7 on Jan 7, 2015 21:50:30 GMT -5

Jan 7, 2015 21:36:31 GMT -5 jasonkehl said:

I finally got back to work with the intention of using my new KSS 85, but it doesn't like cold weather (-31 Celcius). It made a strange clicking noise and would barely turn the blade. I had to use the old Skil wormdrive to get through the day. The good news is that the KSS85 worked fine once it was warmed up. Tomorrow is supposed to be warmer (-17) hopefully the 85 will work. The KSS 400 worked fine today though. Thought I would share this in case any potential buyers work outside in the winter...

What are the amp requirements for the 85?

I have had that same problem with only one tool- a large draw rol-air compressor when cold. If I would go to the bother of taking it inside to get warm that would lower the draw enough to get it to churn a few times then it was off & running.

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KSS80 or K85 Jan 7, 2015 21:57:25 GMT -5 via Tapatalk

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Post by jasonkehl on Jan 7, 2015 21:57:25 GMT -5

I had it plugged into a 20 amp outlet and I never tripped the breaker so I don't know what I could do to persuade it to work other than wait until it's warmer out. If anyone has an alternative solution I'm certainly interested.

MrToolJunkie God Posts: 1,014	KSS80 or K85 Jan 8, 2015 0:43:44 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by MrToolJunkie on Jan 8, 2015 0:43:44 GMT -5 On the 120V option it is 17 amps (it says 19 in the literature, but it is less). Weird about cold - must be that the grease inside solidified somewhat.
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KSS80 or K85 Jan 8, 2015 1:33:24 GMT -5

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Post by 7 on Jan 8, 2015 1:33:24 GMT -5

Jan 7, 2015 21:57:25 GMT -5 jasonkehl said:

I had it plugged into a 20 amp outlet and I never tripped the breaker so I don't know what I could do to persuade it to work other than wait until it's warmer out. If anyone has an alternative solution I'm certainly interested.

Not sure if you work in a shop but I am guessing that you are working outside in the cold weather. I wonder if you put it on the floor of your vehicle with the heater on during your commute if that would solve it.

The other idea is to call the supplier because IMO needing to pamper a high end expensive tool is pretty ridiculous. I know I would be annoyed to need to add steps to baby the saw into working in the cold. Obviously the ideal is to take it right out of the freezing cold trailer and have it work in the cold but it might still be worth the bit of annoying trouble if the saw would save you time in the days work. I know mine isn't a solution or really even a creative idea but sadly it's the best I've got.

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KSS80 or K85 Jan 8, 2015 7:23:01 GMT -5 via Tapatalk 7 likes this

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Post by jasonkehl on Jan 8, 2015 7:23:01 GMT -5

No worries 7 I didn't actually expect a solution. I will be starting the day with the saw warm and undoubtedly it will work, what happens over the course of a couple of hours as the saw reaches outside temp remains to be seen.

I am quite annoyed about this but I'm optimistic that it will work in "normal cold" weather, down to about -20? I also hope that as the saw sees some use it will "loosen up" a bit and be more tolerant of the cold. I'm not so sure this last thought has any logic to it, but it eases the irritation until future use proves otherwise.

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KSS80 or K85 Jan 8, 2015 7:48:58 GMT -5 GhostFist and kalas like this

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Post by jonathan on Jan 8, 2015 7:48:58 GMT -5

I've never had the misfortune of having to work in such extreme conditions, but I wouldnt be a happy camper either. For the premium Mafell charge, it should work in all averse conditions.
I would advise you to put yourself in contact with Mafell directly and hear what they have to say about this.

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toomanytoys Senior Member Posts: 307	KSS80 or K85 Jan 8, 2015 8:26:20 GMT -5 GhostFist, wrightwoodwork, and 2 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by toomanytoys on Jan 8, 2015 8:26:20 GMT -5 At my age when I'm in an environment of -31C / -24F I also make a strange clicking sound and do not work too well either.
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