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Post by jalvis on Nov 17, 2014 11:05:24 GMT -5
One of everything! If your not careful you will end up like me with more tools then room. Then production goes backwards because theres not enough room to work. Sounds like a good problem but its out of control!
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Post by jonathan on Nov 18, 2014 8:43:54 GMT -5
I know it's been a tough decision MrTooljunkie. I hope the tool lives up to your expectations and I look foward to your findings & impressions.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Nov 18, 2014 14:17:53 GMT -5
Thanks...stupid shipping company went to my neighbors house to deliver instead of mine for some unknown reason and then drove off when there was no answer there. I was literally waiting at the door. Supposed to be delivered today - I think I will stand in front of the truck as it comes by.
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Post by thedude306 on Nov 18, 2014 16:00:11 GMT -5
bahahaha I've chased trucks down when that has happened! The anticipation must be killing you!!
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Nov 18, 2014 20:39:57 GMT -5
I was pretty ticked yesterday when it happened. But, it all arrived this afternoon in one piece. It is an amazing piece of machinery. Like driving a well tuned sports car with the controls. Going to be firing it up tonight!
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Nov 19, 2014 0:04:46 GMT -5
OK...here are a couple of pics to prove that I did actually take delivery today  : Attachments:
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Post by GhostFist on Nov 19, 2014 19:59:25 GMT -5
Saweeeeet
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Nov 20, 2014 2:05:38 GMT -5
Just some initial comments so far...
1. This saw is engineering at its finest - everything is well thought out - ergonomics are perfect, all of the controls are right within easy reach, fit and finish is excellent and it just is built right. There are only two, maybe three other hand power tools that I would put in this same class -- the Domino XL, Festool's OF2200 and perhaps the P1CC jigsaw. This saw could become my new all time favorite - time will tell.
2. I find that my Festool hoses fit the dust adaptor perfectly - both the 27mm and the 36mm hoses fit with no issues whatsoever.
3. The 110 volt machine is rated at 17 amps. I thought is was 19 amps, but the label on the tool states otherwise. Not that this is a big deal because this saw has power to spare and then some. But, I feel more comfortable using it with one of my dust extractors for many cuts. I think I will invest in a heavier duty extension cord if I am going to be plowing through lots of timber and plug this into a 20 amp circuit dedicated to the saw. But otherwise, I was pleased that this saw worked with the regular plug on my CT.
4. The saw glides really well on the F-tracks and there is barely any slop at all - and, when you push you naturally (or I do anyway) push against the side of the rib and so there is no slop. It is a really good fit all around.
5. The parallel guide is nice. I am going to invest in the roller guide to allow for narrower rips. The standard guide will do for now, but to take advantage of the saws full potential I think the roller guide is a must-have.
6. The depth of is 3 15/32 - so deeper than my cabinet saw. It will be just a hair too shallow for a clean rip of 4 inch posts...wish Mafell would have made the blades 1/2 - 1 mm bigger - there looks to be more than enough clearance for this size in the housing.
7. The blades are all very nice - I will shoot some video of the close-up of each cut when I get a chance. I wish they had a few more options - one being a flat toothed raker blade to give flat bottoms in grooves, dados and other joinery. Not that the ATB blade is a huge deal, but a flat bottom is just nicer for this type of work.
8. Love the depth stop - super easy to set and perfect for what I do - I do not want to have to pay as close attention to the saw when plunging when it is running. I want to pre-set a depth I need and go. The depth stop allows for that and I think it is one of the nicest features of the saw.
9. The bevel adjustments are superb. Wow - a single lever that flips up easily and locks down with no effort - amazing. No messing around - takes seconds to execute and it is super accurate. This is probably my second favorite feature of the saw.
10. Cross-cut track is very nice and wide, stable. I was disappointed that the ribs on the bottom of the track were not t-track slots - I came up with an idea for a simple wood fence to span the gap between the pins for narrower cuts with the rail (certain joinery cuts, for example). But, no t-slot means this will be a little harder to execute. There is one t-track that you could use with the left pin and so maybe something could hold a piece of wood secure enough to work. I am going to have to play around with that idea some more.
11. The saw is louder than I thought it would be - will have to wear hearing protection for sure - I always do anyway, but this is a louder machine than I was thinking.
12. The brake works OK - I thought it would stop the blade quickly like one some miter saws, but it does take several seconds to engage - I did not time it, but it is probably a good 3-5 seconds. Not sure if that is fast or how it compares to the other KSS saws. I am not really disappointed in it, but was thinking it would have been quicker.
13. The motor does the pulsing and slow idle like you have heard with the MT55. I was also expecting a smoother slow-start, but it has a very minor kick when you turn it on. Again, not a big deal but something I thought would be differnt.
14. This saw is ultra smooth - there is virtually zero vibration in the handle under full power, which is great.
15. It is heavy but, I think I will get used to it. Maybe a pound or 2 heavier than a standard worm-drive. It is very well balanced as others have said and the weight I think will aid it when making heavy cuts in tough hardwood. It glides along its track and F-rails once it is in place for a cut. Lifting it on and off the rail for rips is going to give me a good workout after a few hours.
That is all for now...more to come...
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Post by 7 on Nov 20, 2014 21:36:32 GMT -5
That is all really helpful info for me. One question on item #6- Will the saw cut a 4x4 post in one pass when it is removed from the track? I am thinking the 3 15/32" is the depth when it is on the KSS track & F rails??
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Nov 20, 2014 23:20:44 GMT -5
That is all really helpful info for me. One question on item #6- Will the saw cut a 4x4 post in one pass when it is removed from the track? I am thinking the 3 15/32" is the depth when it is on the KSS track & F rails?? The depth is off the track, I think. I think it is just shy of 3.5 inches. I am going to give it a try to see how close it gets. I just do not have a 4 inch post at the moment. |
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Post by thedude306 on Nov 21, 2014 1:38:36 GMT -5
Great initial impressions. Are you happy with the DC on it? You mentioned your second favorite feature, I am unclear what your first was.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Nov 21, 2014 9:57:23 GMT -5
The depth stop is awesome on this machine - and my favorite feature so far. Oh, and the red indicator lines throughout the saw are very nice - you know right where the cut line is, where to place the saw on the track and all of the depth settings are marked clearly with red markings that stand out. That is my third favorite feature.
The DC on both my Mafell's are similar - the chute actually creates much air movement - you can feel it without a hose connected and the machine running - it is like a blower, so very well designed.
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Post by 7 on Nov 22, 2014 22:13:49 GMT -5
I agree that it's impressive how much of the dust comes out of the port even without a vac attached. I was a little bit mad the other day because I was cutting out circles with the P1cc for can lights and when I worked the saw around above me when the port passed my face there was a noticable stream of drywall grit that blew all over my face from the dust port...and thats on a jigsaw with now spinning blade.
As for the 4x4 post a 2x4 edgewise would be the same if you have one of those. You're probably right though that the 3 15/32" is likely off the rails. Thanks for the information on the KSS80 so far.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Nov 22, 2014 23:12:22 GMT -5
Yeah...I was thinking that. I will see if I can give it a try tomorrow - I have lots of 2x handy. Did not get a chance to play in the shop today.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Nov 22, 2014 23:13:12 GMT -5
Oh...and I like that little cap with the P1CC for exactly the reason you mention - at least it keeps the debris from flying all over if you are not using DC.
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