Do you find the KSS80 to be heavy in use? I have a KSS400 and love it. I use the 400 for framing, cutting 2x lumber and ripping sheet goods. It's an awesome saw and I want to get another for my 2 person crew. Instead of another 400 I'm thinking of the 80 so we have the greater capacity for the occasions that require it but I don't want a saw that's too heavy to use all day, every day when I only need the extra depth and power periodically.
Any thoughts or opinions on this would be appreciated appreciated.
Post by MrToolJunkie on Nov 29, 2014 11:21:51 GMT -5
Well, I do not have enough time on it yet to give a great answer, but I did use it for several hours yesterday. It is a big saw, but extremely well balanced, both on and off the rails and/or with the cross-cut track. It weighs 16 pounds without the track so it is pretty close to a sidewinder for comparison - maybe a pound heavier. On the rail it is around 19 pounds or so. Pushing it along it just goes and it is super smooth and the weight I think actually helps it cut smoothly. Nothing bogs this tool down. But, if you are picking it up and down hundreds of times a day I could see how it could get tiring. The biggest thing I am not used to is the blade guard mechanism - having to flip the cover up to get the saw to sit flush on a cut table after a cut is the thing I have been struggling with most at the moment as it is still not a natural flow to raise the saw. I am still learning with this style plunge mechanism as I have traditionally used a plunge-cut saw for working hardwood. This is different for me so I was certainly not as efficient as I will be and that caused me to do more lifting and positioning. I think with more time it will not notice it as much. One other thing that I need to spend more time with is the plunge depth stop rod to aid lifting and lowering the saw after a cut easier and more reliable.
The bottom line for me is that I needed this saw for what I need to cut and so it was perfect for my situation. If I was cutting 2x off a pile I do not think it would be a huge burden and it works really well on the bigger timbers. I could totally see adding a smaller 400 or 300 to the mix, though, for the smaller stuff. The KSS80 cuts anything, but for smaller pieces it has not been as efficient for me yet, and I say yet because I think this will improve with time and practice.
Post by wrightwoodwork on Nov 29, 2014 12:50:27 GMT -5
I would properly go for the kss 80 over getting a second kss 400, a second would only be handy if you have to work on separate jobs. I have the 85 which is a similar weight to the ks85. When picking up the saw it obviously feels heavier but not uncomfortable. Then in use it takes about the same effort to push along. On certain tasks like ripping it actually feels easier with the added power weight.
Thanks for your input guys. We are usually on the same site, but work independent of each other most of the time, hence the idea of 2 KSS 400's. The extra power and capacity of the 80 certainly is appealing, there are times it would be necessary for sure. It's just the repeated picking up and setting down that could get tiring. We usually use worm drives though, they are about 13 pounds. I'm leaning toward the 80, just need the Canadian dollar to gain some strength...
Post by MrToolJunkie on Dec 6, 2014 11:44:31 GMT -5
The new roller guide came in this last week...and I got some stickers to boot!! I am anxious to try the roller guide out and think it will work much better than screwing a wooden fence to the standard parallel guide.
Post by MrToolJunkie on Jan 2, 2015 14:25:12 GMT -5
Thanks, guys! I enjoy them, but they sure do slow down the process! I should have had all my material broken down yesterday and I got one seat blank milled, LOL. More to come in time...this saw is very capable.
bengt: Oh please the ks60 is better in every way. 60 degree miter in both directions. Bevels past 45(essential in a saw that must cut on the flat) Bigger blade more capacity. The Metabo hpt has 57 degree miter max and 45 bevel max.
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abdon: I stand corrected , the angle fence is only attaches with F -Tracks , what confused me was , that the Timberwolf site mentioned it will work with the NFU machine, yes it will work but only I guess when you use the Ftrack , with other tracks Like the KSS L.
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lasse: Thanks for the tip! I have own a mafell rail which is 160 cm and one that is 80 cm. Will it work just as well or will I need to buy rail that is 110 cm?
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