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Post by thehandyman on Jan 12, 2019 23:43:30 GMT -5
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Post by kraftt on Jan 13, 2019 9:56:59 GMT -5
I remember reading somewhere it came down to sustained torque with hydraulic impact. When you say "not as powerful" do you mean listed specs or your tested impression between the two? I was just wondering, since the Makita has been out for a while, if this newer Hikoki release is using any kind of improved or longer sustained design. Also, does one feel 'smoother' than the other besides just quieter?
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Post by thehandyman on Jan 13, 2019 23:45:03 GMT -5
I remember reading somewhere it came down to sustained torque with hydraulic impact. When you say " not as powerful" do you mean listed specs or your tested impression between the two? I was just wondering, since the Makita has been out for a while, if this newer Hikoki release is using any kind of improved or longer sustained design. Also, does one feel 'smoother' than the other besides just quieter? Probably same tech as the Makita oil-impulse. Makita - 40 Nm rated max Hikoki - 33 Nm rated max Driving 3" screws into 75 year old pine, I could tell Makita was stronger. Hikoki did fine and it was quiter, as the rated dB levels of each would lead you to believe.
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Post by henrun on Jan 20, 2019 15:03:09 GMT -5
Ah, now you've gone and made me jealous! I love the triple hammer I have from Hitachi but I could deffo use the quiet version for the interior work! The grip is pretty much perfect for my hands.
How much was the damage? How long did it take to get to you? Sorely tempted...
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Post by thehandyman on Jan 20, 2019 15:07:23 GMT -5
Ah, now you've gone and made me jealous! I love the triple hammer I have from Hitachi but I could deffo use the quiet version for the interior work! The grip is pretty much perfect for my hands. How much was the damage? How long did it take to get to you? Sorely tempted... Cost me about $266 shipped to my door. Whole process took 20 days.
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Post by HenRun on the Run on Jan 20, 2019 15:12:32 GMT -5
Ok, might look into it. If you can recommend a specific site, do PM me with that or post here in the thread. 
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Post by thehandyman on Jan 25, 2019 17:14:22 GMT -5
Zenmarket.jp
Create account, find and bid on auction, win, fund Zenmarket.jp account to pay for tool & shipping.
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Post by henrun on Mar 10, 2019 4:39:29 GMT -5
Still looking into this, still sorely tempted.
I have the Hitachi triple hammer and now also the Bosch GDX 18V-Ec (bought on sale).
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Post by henrun on Mar 10, 2019 16:21:13 GMT -5
Ok, call me crazy, I did order it this evening. Expected delivery time two to three weeks. Sure hope it turns up! It is a volume seller with great feedback so I am not too concerned.
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Post by henrun on Mar 21, 2019 14:20:01 GMT -5
Just picked up the Impact an hour ago. Feels great in hand and very well balanced. Will get to work tomorrow with mounting trim at a clinic where I have the full Hitachi/HiKoki kit.
Thanks to thehandyman for the heads up on where to order.  I didn't get the Hitachi as they were out of stock so they sent me a HiKoki. I don't mind. They were very polite and triple checked that I had ordered the right type of tool before shipping as they don't do refunds on overseas orders. That checking back and forth took four days... ...delivery was swift after that so all in all happy with the purchase.
I don't know yet if the handle is slightly different from the triple hammer impact or if it is just the extra weight that makes this impact feel so great in hand. It actually rivals the Bosch GDX 18V ec as a pretty much perfect fit for my hands. This could very well be one of the better purchases I have made. I don't mind less grunt than the triple hammer since I have that as well.
I am eyballing that 18V 165mm blade Hitachi sliding mitre saw as well - it would be the perfect saw for my trim work. A bit pricey though! I could get the transformer for it over here though so it would be a safe bet for future work.
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Post by henrun on Mar 22, 2019 14:20:17 GMT -5
Gave the HypeCookie Impacturo a good workout today. Very nice indeed! It is actually very very quiet for being an impact. My colleague got to initiate it and we both looked at each other after he drove a 5x80mm screw in pine - in astonishment. It hardly kicked in with the impact and was very quiet. It was so quiet we thought it was broken... Did trim work and also ran quite a few 5x80mm screws - could almost not tell I was running an impact! Longest screws of the day were 6x140mm in pine. Thought it would struggle but no, went in without fuss and very little noise. Balance, handling, all top notch. I am thinking it is one of the very nicest drills I have handled to date. I haven't tried the Makita greasy impact but as far as impact drivers go this is bliss. My colleague runs Makita drills and decided on the spot to give the Makita equivalent a try. I don't know why they don't sell this on the european market. It would sell very well. At least to all who don't just go by Nm specs. Ergonomics are top notch for me. If I had gotten this one before I bought the Bosch GDX 18V EC impact on sale I am pretty sure I might have left the Bosch on the shelf. But, as with virtually any other brand, HiKoki is a bit lacking with some specialty tools and the Bosch Flexiclick has made such a good impression in a very short time for me so the Bosch impact is a natural keeper in a separate kit. The Hikoki oil pulse Impact might not be the best for drilling but the triple hammer does that very well.
Like theHandyman wrote earlier in this thread: "perfect for all interior work" - I agree.
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Post by thehandyman on Mar 23, 2019 21:40:41 GMT -5
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Post by henrun on Mar 24, 2019 17:13:14 GMT -5
I have no comparison in this segment as it is my first Oil Impulse/Impact driver - but I am very impressed with the HiKoki. I can understand if it is your go-to machine. Ergonomics; weight, grip and balance is superb.
It has rapidly become my favorite drill to date - nudging down the Festool CXS. The CXS makes for a great pairing with the HiKoki though.
In action it feels kind of like a Festool TXS on steroids. Nimble with good grip and it is so quiet I have only used my triple hammer for some predrilling last couple of days. Ergonomics are top notch for me.
The one small niggle is that the belt clip is so long it tilts the machine when set down with the 3 Ah compact battery. I do have a Hitachi belt clip that is shorter, will see if I can switch over.
I especially like how it pulses in the screws - dead easy to set the right depth, did everything from 3x30 screws for interior window trim, a few drywall screws in hard to reach places (drywall on OSB) up to 5x100mm screws straight in pine.
I also like that you can switch the LED light between off, on and trigger activated. I have never been a huge fan of Impact drivers due to the noise but they have their place in the arsenal.
I don't know how long it has been out on the market, I sure wish I would have gotten one earlier.
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Post by skinee on Apr 15, 2019 16:36:36 GMT -5
well you guys tempted me and I also got one as I already have several hitachi tools,the delivery costs however are really enough to make you wince,its a sweet driver,very quiet,i also like the double layered case it came in,compact and plenty of storage for bits etc.,id like to see more tools come with this design of case.
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Post by ohan on Apr 15, 2019 17:00:26 GMT -5
Pix of the case? Is it just a blow molded case?
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