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DDF 40
Jul 24, 2021 4:52:02 GMT -5
Post by aas on Jul 24, 2021 4:52:02 GMT -5
I think that's a good choice given the info you've given us... I only have lots of Mafell as I can buy from Germany, even in France it's very expensive... but the delivery charge - ouch!.. I feel for you!
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DDF 40
Jul 24, 2021 5:57:28 GMT -5
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Post by hecon5 on Jul 24, 2021 5:57:28 GMT -5
I mean, you have a Domino, and it's working for you now. In your case, I'd echo others, keep the Domino, add the DDF40 when have a need for it on a job (like you need high precision and shelf pin holes or the like). Way easier to justify it (and not regret it) when it fits a need than just because you want to upgrade.
My need (lust) for one is only stymied because I don't have an immediate need yet and don't have a Domino. You sound like you're in a similar boat.
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DDF 40
Jul 24, 2021 18:17:03 GMT -5
Post by johnb on Jul 24, 2021 18:17:03 GMT -5
My need (lust) for one is only stymied because I don't have an immediate need yet and don't have a Domino. You sound like you're in a similar boat.
Yes you've summed this up perfectly. It was definitely more lust than need particularly when I saw the added accessories. The side extension is way better than Festool's cross stop and the included variety of stops means there is no need for referencing off pencil lines. I've made/bought a few jigs for the Domino which give me similar functionality but Mafell has done it way better. Inexpensive and readily available dowels compared to expensive dominos was also appealing. The key point is I can achieve the same results with a domino just not in such a "sexy"  way |
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DDF 40
Jul 25, 2021 6:04:48 GMT -5
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Post by lincoln on Jul 25, 2021 6:04:48 GMT -5
My DDF40 arrived yesterday and what a beautifully engineered tool it is. Sold my DD40P to a fellow Australian Mafell user First post so hello all!
I'm very interested in the DDF40 and have read this entire thread. I own a Domino 500 which is great but can't afford to keep both. I've been trying to wrap my head around which one would suit me better and I can't come to a decision. There are pluses and minuses to both. The advantage of the DDF40 is it uses cheap and easy accessible dowels, the fence is more solid, the included accessories with the Max, like the side attachment are better than Domino's equivalent and of course its super accurate, however, there isn't a retailer in Australia who stocks it and therefore spare parts will be difficult to get. Also, there are plenty of 3rd party suppliers of accessories for the Domino like TSO products, Seneca woodworking, FC tools and there are plenty of videos, tutorials, manuals etc all in English. I also like having the wiggle room even though I rarely use it. I've even bought a dock station that holds the Domino vertically. Great for small boxes. In other words there are very few resources for the DDF40 other than the videos on Mafell's web site and the included manual is just as bad as the Domino. I make everything from jewellery boxes to beds and I'm only a serious hobbyist but I do sell some things. Am i right in assuming the DDF40 is better for cabinets and the Domino is more for general purpose or is that over simplifying it too much? Someone tell me what to buy because I can't decide  !!!!!
Lincoln, Where did you buy this from? I'm struggling to find an Aussie supplier. If you got it overseas what did you do about the electrical plug?
Hello John, I bought mine from Trade Counter Online (UK), via ebay. You get the protection of ebay, that way. I simply cut off the plug and installed an Aus plug. |
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DDF 40
Jul 25, 2021 6:43:24 GMT -5
Post by johnb on Jul 25, 2021 6:43:24 GMT -5
Thanks for that Lincoln but what about import charges/duties/taxes?
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DDF 40
Jul 25, 2021 16:19:36 GMT -5
Post by lincoln on Jul 25, 2021 16:19:36 GMT -5
Yes, there was a customs charge, from memory. All is tax deductible, if you're in the building industry. The other option would be to go to: www.elektrowerkzeug-shop.de/This is where I have bought the majority of my Mafell tools from. Have also bought from www.timberwolftools.com/ without any issues. |
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Post by matchesder on Sept 4, 2021 17:33:23 GMT -5
In my opinion, the DD has an advantage if there is room for 2 dowels but only for one Domino. In this case, the dowels are better at keeping the pieces from rotating than one small Domino.
Also if you want to use knock down fixings designed for round holes, there is an obvious advantage.
Yes, the DDF40 has some nice features and accessories.
For the bigger things, like beds I'd consider the Domino XL. With the adapter you still can use the 4 mm Dominos. This will be less comfortable due to size and weight of the Domino XL, so if mony is thight, it's possible but having both Dominos is more fun.
If I had to choose only one, I'd probably go for the DF500, maybe 700XL because they are the most flexible.
Lamello Zeta is a nice addition with the clamex P. With the P10 you can put knock down fixings in as little as 12 mm sheets. But I don't see the Zeta as a replacement for the Domino. I think the 10 mm Dominos make a stronger connection than the biggest Lamello.
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DDF 40
Nov 5, 2021 23:26:15 GMT -5
Post by woodbeautician on Nov 5, 2021 23:26:15 GMT -5
In an ideal world, yes, but the older models don't have the fixing points for the two new accessories you mentioned. 900w is not far behind the DD40P, but 8000rpm seems slow. |
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DDF 40
Jan 24, 2022 17:27:30 GMT -5
Post by matchesder on Jan 24, 2022 17:27:30 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the Stop pin insert forbattens LA (206491) of the DDF will work with the DD?
The DDF has additional holes at the side of the fence where the DD only has a small groove.
I assume the holes at the front are the same so the insert might fit both? Mafell says no, bot I'd like to know if it still does and if not why and if it is possible to modify it so it will fit.
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DDF 40
Mar 14, 2022 15:41:05 GMT -5
Post by matchesder on Mar 14, 2022 15:41:05 GMT -5
Update:
The stop pin insert does fit on the DDF. However, since it is lacking the slots at the fence, the alignment of the small battens is not as convenient. One can use the profile of the fence as reference but no physical stop.
I've made pictures but the forum keeps telling me my 200 kB files are too large despite a limit of 1 MB.
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