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DDF 40
Apr 27, 2021 19:56:34 GMT -5
Post by kraftt on Apr 27, 2021 19:56:34 GMT -5
You're on a good roll, scoring some great tools lately.
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DDF 40
Apr 27, 2021 20:31:33 GMT -5
Post by lincoln on Apr 27, 2021 20:31:33 GMT -5
Mostly upgrades, kraftt, and sold the tool I was upgrading to limit the damage. Only one I held on to is the festool ETS150 sander that got replaced by the Mirka. Keeping that for 'rough' work.
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Post by kraftt on Apr 27, 2021 21:59:35 GMT -5
Well of course they are all upgrades, otherwise what's the point. No better reason.
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DDF 40
Apr 27, 2021 22:54:54 GMT -5
Post by lincoln on Apr 27, 2021 22:54:54 GMT -5
True that!
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DDF 40
May 2, 2021 11:20:46 GMT -5
Post by alvychippy on May 2, 2021 11:20:46 GMT -5
My DDF40 arrived yesterday and what a beautifully engineered tool it is. Sold my DD40P to a fellow Australian Mafell user, as I think the 'F' will be much more suited to cabinet work than the 'P'. Guy I sold it to is interested in the bigger dowels, so a win-win situation. At first look the accessories are fantastic - I got the MaxiMax version, so that includes everything, I think? I already had the dowel template rail. It's a 2021 build date, which was good to see. Also, the online warranty registration process was very easy, has that been streamlined recently? I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, you implied to post some photo evidence what you did with it ? 😐 Unless, it's been put in to cabinet for better or worse 🙃🤪
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Post by lincoln on May 2, 2021 16:05:39 GMT -5
I have two floating bathroom vanity cabinets to make this week, will take some pics of the DDF40 in action
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Post by aas on May 3, 2021 5:28:26 GMT -5
Cool!.. would be good to hear what you think comparing it to the DD40P!
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Post by hecon5 on May 21, 2021 15:00:55 GMT -5
lincoln: you like it? I'm about to pull the trigger on it and the 800mm template. Does anyone use different bits, also? at ~$50-75/ea. they're pretty steep to get larger bits...
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Post by aas on May 21, 2021 15:25:02 GMT -5
lincoln : you like it? I'm about to pull the trigger on it and the 800mm template. Does anyone use different bits, also? at ~$50-75/ea. they're pretty steep to get larger bits... I only have the DD40P - not the DDF40. The Mafell bits stay sharp for a long time. I've got bits in 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 16mm (I'm sure I have another size too...) I use 8mm all the time, the others seldom - if at all. Depends what you'll be using it for, but the DDF40 is orientated towards carcass building / build ins (I can't think of the word in English - 'agencement' in French - it covers build in furniture, kitchens etc.) - you'll find a set of 5mm and 8mm bits will probably cover most if not all of your work.
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DDF 40
May 21, 2021 21:50:10 GMT -5
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Post by MrToolJunkie on May 21, 2021 21:50:10 GMT -5
5mm and 8mm are the most common size for cabinets and built-ins. Bigger for furniture joinery. Mafell bits are sharp. If you buy other sizes you have to buy 2 as packaging is just one bit.
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DDF 40
May 22, 2021 0:02:08 GMT -5
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Post by lincoln on May 22, 2021 0:02:08 GMT -5
lincoln: you like it? I'm about to pull the trigger on it and the 800mm template. Does anyone use different bits, also? at ~$50-75/ea. they're pretty steep to get larger bits... Yes, it's fantastic! So many extra features that make it perfect for cabinetmaking, compared the the 'P' - being able to work off the base, the dual depth stop set up, the cross stop bar. The accessories are very well thought out and everything is 100% accurate - no ridiculous 'tweaking' of the stops, like with the domino. I'm considering selling my Domino 500, as the DDF40 pretty much covers everything it can do, plus more.
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DDF 40
May 22, 2021 8:59:56 GMT -5
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Post by hecon5 on May 22, 2021 8:59:56 GMT -5
5mm and 8mm are the most common size for cabinets and built-ins. Bigger for furniture joinery. Mafell bits are sharp. If you buy other sizes you have to buy 2 as packaging is just one bit. You mean, they are $150/ea, for the 12mm, thanks, I missed that! That's even steeper than I thought! Does anyone know if the 12mm bits are big enough for camlock style fasteners? [EDIT: No, they aren't. Finally found a set and they range between 14 and 15mm. Looks like the thing here if I need to is to drill small then drill out with a depth stop collet.] Think Ikea. I know they're not fancy nor the best for everything, but for a joint I have to take off/on and is hidden, they're just the thing.
Yes, it's fantastic! So many extra features that make it perfect for cabinetmaking, compared the the 'P' - being able to work off the base, the dual depth stop set up, the cross stop bar. The accessories are very well thought out and everything is 100% accurate - no ridiculous 'tweaking' of the stops, like with the domino. I'm considering selling my Domino 500, as the DDF40 pretty much covers everything it can do, plus more. Sweet! Thank you! I think this was the thing to knock me off the fence (well, that, and the $P$R$I$C$E).
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DDF 40
Jul 23, 2021 18:59:00 GMT -5
Post by johnb on Jul 23, 2021 18:59:00 GMT -5
My DDF40 arrived yesterday and what a beautifully engineered tool it is. Sold my DD40P to a fellow Australian Mafell user First post so hello all!
I'm very interested in the DDF40 and have read this entire thread. I own a Domino 500 which is great but can't afford to keep both. I've been trying to wrap my head around which one would suit me better and I can't come to a decision. There are pluses and minuses to both. The advantage of the DDF40 is it uses cheap and easy accessible dowels, the fence is more solid, the included accessories with the Max, like the side attachment are better than Domino's equivalent and of course its super accurate, however, there isn't a retailer in Australia who stocks it and therefore spare parts will be difficult to get. Also, there are plenty of 3rd party suppliers of accessories for the Domino like TSO products, Seneca woodworking, FC tools and there are plenty of videos, tutorials, manuals etc all in English. I also like having the wiggle room even though I rarely use it. I've even bought a dock station that holds the Domino vertically. Great for small boxes. In other words there are very few resources for the DDF40 other than the videos on Mafell's web site and the included manual is just as bad as the Domino. I make everything from jewellery boxes to beds and I'm only a serious hobbyist but I do sell some things. Am i right in assuming the DDF40 is better for cabinets and the Domino is more for general purpose or is that over simplifying it too much? Someone tell me what to buy because I can't decide !!!!!
Lincoln, Where did you buy this from? I'm struggling to find an Aussie supplier. If you got it overseas what did you do about the electrical plug?
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Post by aas on Jul 24, 2021 0:02:46 GMT -5
If you like 'wiggle room', the Domino is best. For heavy duty work the DD40P is best.
The kind of work you are doing is ideal for the DDF40 and it overlaps with the Domino. You say you already have a DF500... obviously something is making you want to change. The DDF40 will be learning curve as with any new tool, I find drilling a pair of dowel holes requires more effort than drilling an equivalent Domino hole (I'm comparing the DD40P to the DF500).
If you decide on the DDF40, you will have to up your game with precision. There is the castellated rail for precise drilling along a board, probably not useful for jewellery boxes, but for larger items it is almost necessary.
I've never found a need for add on adapters, maybe someone with e DDF40 can chip in...
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Post by johnb on Jul 24, 2021 0:51:02 GMT -5
The reason for change is not that there's anything wrong with the Domino its just the DDF40 seems to suit the way I work but I have decided to stick with the Domino. The negatives of the DDF40 are adding up and its mainly to do with local support, spare parts, delivery (a ridiculous $220 AUD)etc. Australia just doesn't have a big enough Mafell presence compared to Europe. Plenty of places to buy and get support for Festool equipment but not Mafell. There is one agent for Mafelle in the whole of Australia but they don't stock anything, they just order on consignment, hence the exorbitant delivery charge. The Domino still does everything, with precision so I'm not that disappointed.
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