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Post by thehandyman on May 21, 2018 9:11:03 GMT -5
So, I called metabo. They said all of their new drills have a slip clutch for when the drill binds. To save the geartrain and the batteries. He was telling me that lithium batteries become volatile when a sudden high amp draw happens. Will Now I need to test this out. I have noticed the electronic clutch is quite sensative and nice. Havent tested it on just drill mode yet. |
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Post by thehandyman on May 21, 2018 9:13:08 GMT -5
Handyman, Have you used your dcd997 enough to say whether you like it or not, etc? If so, please share. I have. It's fantastic. I already liked the DCD996 a lot and the addition of Tool Connect parameters is really nice. I like the 3 speed settings even if it isn't 3800 rpm. It does have over 2000 rpm in hammer mode. The bind up control works excellent. I am always testing it out just because. |
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Post by aas on May 21, 2018 13:33:07 GMT -5
He was telling me that lithium batteries become volatile when a sudden high amp draw happens. Will ...mmm, not convinced by this. 'Volatile' is a bit extreme. So we are to believe all the 'older' high amp draw tools present a risk and danger to the users due to volatile batteries? Sounds like a marketing guy who doesn't know what he's talking about!
Good they are putting slip clutches in all the drills now though!
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Post by zukinut on May 21, 2018 13:42:01 GMT -5
I know that older drills were no cads. I don't think volatile is s good word, but I do believe they're more "dangerous"
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Post by zukinut on May 21, 2018 13:43:38 GMT -5
Handyman, Have you used your dcd997 enough to say whether you like it or not, etc? If so, please share. I have. It's fantastic. I already liked the DCD996 a lot and the addition of Tool Connect parameters is really nice. I like the 3 speed settings even if it isn't 3800 rpm. It does have over 2000 rpm in hammer mode. The bind up control works excellent. I am always testing it out just because. Is it as heavy as the 996? I guess I could look thst up, but it's easier to just ask. |
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Post by thehandyman on May 21, 2018 15:50:56 GMT -5
I have. It's fantastic. I already liked the DCD996 a lot and the addition of Tool Connect parameters is really nice. I like the 3 speed settings even if it isn't 3800 rpm. It does have over 2000 rpm in hammer mode. The bind up control works excellent. I am always testing it out just because. Is it as heavy as the 996? I guess I could look thst up, but it's easier to just ask. Same exact drill components and power specs. It's maybe 1/4 taller do to the tool connect Bluetooth chip set and larger circuit board in the base of the drill. This Is not noticeable in use nor is the extra ounce or two in weight. |
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Post by huntsgemein on May 21, 2018 23:55:15 GMT -5
He was telling me that lithium batteries become volatile when a sudden high amp draw happens. Will ...mmm, not convinced by this. 'Volatile' is a bit extreme. So we are to believe all the 'older' high amp draw tools present a risk and danger to the users due to volatile batteries? Sounds like a marketing guy who doesn't know what he's talking about!
Good they are putting slip clutches in all the drills now though!
My older Swiss-made Bosch blue drill & fatpack lithium batteries (both) would get too hot to handle with bare hands when I worked it really, really hard: i.e. boring cableways at low speed with cobalt holesaws through girders. Let's not forget those infamous lithium powered telephones, laptops & "hoverboards" that were all too willing to burst into flames either. There's serious energy levels within modern lithium power cells. Not all energy packs are as well designed or made than others either. That's why there's a blanket bam on lithium power packs being transported by civil aviation. |
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Post by zukinut on May 22, 2018 5:57:19 GMT -5
So, I called metabo. They said all of their new drills have a slip clutch for when the drill binds. To save the geartrain and the batteries. He was telling me that lithium batteries become volatile when a sudden high amp draw happens. Will Now I need to test this out. I have noticed the electronic clutch is quite sensative and nice. Havent tested it on just drill mode yet. Well get on it, hahaha. Seriously tho, if you have one of the newer drills and don't mind, see if what they say actually works Will |
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Post by henrun on May 22, 2018 10:07:05 GMT -5
Feels good in hand. Not as comfortable grip as Hitachi and some others but a good, plain grip. LED light ok, not too powerful but when light is low I am sure it will suffice. Compared to the older Metabo (which wasn't bad, just dated) this new one feels very good and responsive. It has a very good feel to it. Plastic was a bit sharp edged in places so I broke them down a bit. Looks chubby but remember the camera adds five pounds. ;)Well, honestly, camera distortion makes the top part look bigger than it really is. It is the same size as your other run of the mill impact driver, which is handy.    All in all I think the new impact seems to be a very good machine and if it holds specs it will be all I need. I wish the bottom part of the handle would have been a little bit slimmer but it is not bad at all. I have small to medium sized hands. Medium to large hands will appreciate the grip even more. Not sure when the next decking job starts, waiting for material to materialize.  |
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Post by leeceltic on Nov 20, 2019 14:11:58 GMT -5
Consider what you’ll be using the tool for, the materials you frequently work with, as well as any challenges you might encounter when tackling a project. Keep in mind that price doesn’t always go hand-in-hand with quality and performance, so try to compare as many drills as you can so that you can find the best cordless drill for under 150, 100, 75 and 50.00 to suit your needs.
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Post by friednlylady on Dec 25, 2019 22:18:38 GMT -5
Honest answer - any big name will work well for you.. that said my personal preference, and that of many others these days is Milwaukee.. Milwaukee, Dewalt, Makita, or even Ryobi and Ridgid are probably the best choices to stick with - simply because they are popular here (Untied States) and very easy to find and get.. a trip to Home Depot or a visit to their website is all you need to do.. decide what you wanna spend - or what your WILLING to spend, decide what tools you want now, what you might want later if any, and then start looking at brands.. buy into a system, not just your first tool. Consider future purchases before the first purchase you make. Every brand has had its turn being on top - but right now it's a honest statement to say Milwaukee dominates this forum and most of the professional field these days. They have a few different tiers to pick from, you don't need to buy the most expensive. They also seem to offer the most promos with free tools or batteries with purchases, and their system covers a wide range of more specialized tools all the way to heated clothing, and hands down has the most cordless lighting options available if that interests you. There is a dedicated Milwaukee thread on the forum, filled with knowledgeable people that are more than willing to help or make recommendations - and it's always helpful to hear from people that actually own the tools or know about what they don't even own. It's your money - buy whatever you like, but my personal preference is Milwaukee. I own a ton of their stuff, and there are very few tools that don't actually exceed expectations. Good luck and happy shopping, but it sounds like the first tool you need is an 18v hammer drill. Don't discount buying a combo kit just yet.. an impact driver is a great tool to have number one, but more importantly, you can get one for just a few more $$ then buying a single tool kit that comes with 2 batteries.. Buying refurb kits from CPO is another option to save a few bucks on a purchase. But right not there are current "free tool" promos if you buy some Milwaukee kits.. Any current, competitive 18v hammer drill should have no issues drilling 3/16 or 1/4" holes for tapcon screws btw.. not the ideal tool to drill 50 or 100 at a time, but "barely" being able to drill those holes is not an accurate description of today's leading hammer drills. |
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Post by kraftt on Dec 26, 2019 9:52:29 GMT -5
Milwaukees legacy corded tools really used to be a true commercial / professional brand. Deservedly so,
motors and build quality weren’t questioned. Every now and then I dust off one of their old Hole Hawg, Right angle, Magnum drills or one of their magnum grinders etc. and put it to use. But todays Milwaukee isn’t what it was. The confidence in quality just isn’t there. True for a few of the other ‘colors’ you mention too.
Purchased a milwaukee cordless impact combo drill for a specific job because I needed a light hammer drill to use high on a ladder (wrote about it here). Only reason I purchased the milwaukee was the box store near the job and their return / replacement policy.
Chuck was problematic out of box and eventually failed, clutch failed, switch went wonky. Returned it for repair and they put an updated chuck on it but it still didn’t work right. Took repaired drill to the same store Rep that sold it to me and he swapped it for a newer model. I appreciate that (not the repair part) and I will say I was/am impressed with power on both models and feel battery / battery life also good. But both old and new chuck designs are poor. Bits / drills / augers will just slip right out (usually above a tiled floor) after a few trigger pulls no matter how much attention to detail is used positioning bits and cinching chucks - which makes three chucks now I have experience with.
The triggers aren’t much to speak of either, no matter how lightly you squeeze for limited speed / rotation the range suddenly jumps to almost full power. As to the clutches, frankly I've come to believe they're just a prop.
I am tough on my tools, though I clean & maintain them equally. But what I read in forums is guys reporting repair shops get piles more milwaukee stuff than anything else (popularity / abuse expectation could factor in) and policy seems to be just to replace it under warrantee if customer complains too much. Hey if I could continually trade in my tools every year for new replacements I’d think fondly of that brand too. But you have to send it in for repair and wait without the use of that tool, and what I got back was sub par.
Personally I’ve come to think of Milwaukee as Red Ryobi for the large part. Maybe this is just a transition for the brand and things will improve or a few killer tools will emerge? If anything does change please let us know.
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Post by leeceltic on Mar 5, 2020 12:02:33 GMT -5
Recently got a Makita for £100 from Tradepoint with 2 x Li-ion 1.3 Ah batteries. Seems pretty good, though I did manage to make it smoke on its first use, trying to remove a recalcitrant 150mm screw!
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Post by powertoolsguyd on Jul 9, 2020 4:33:57 GMT -5
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Post by powertoolsguyd on Jul 9, 2020 4:35:56 GMT -5
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