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Post by kraftt on May 9, 2018 21:39:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I was there talking to them about their deceptive percentage claims. Why bother saying it's 60% stronger than any competitor when we all know that is ridiculous. None the less, I used the drill and it is surely impressive for how small it is. Lots of improvements over the 2nd gen. I'll see how it is soon. My tool repairer, a fellow with whom I've dealt & trusted for some 30 odd years now, .... has a "pyramid" of some 150-200 kaput fuel motors in a corner below a sign stating "SOME of the Milwaukee warranty repairs from the past year". To be fair, 'though Milwaukee (& their latter-day AEG & Ridgid siblings) these days are little more than re-badged Ryobis from the same TTI (Hong Kong/PRC) stable, & are I assume priced accordingly. Quality almost always costs a bit more. Had a job earlier this year where I asked the forum for advice on a light hammer drill to use up on high ladders. Got sound advice and was steered to bosch sds. Then the plans changed and all that was required to mount material were tiny 3/16" & ¼" holes. So a basic drill driver / hammer combo, easy to use one handed, easy to belt hook, etc. was the answer. At first quality was a consideration but I realized I don't normally have a need for a combo drill. My solution was to buy at the closest box store to the job site so if drill failed I could just go in and exchange it. Then at the end of the job I would sell it. The Milwaukee salesman was there and gave me a deal on the 18 fuel so that's what I used. All told I only drilled a little over 1200 holes, mostly 3/16" (4.8mm). The drill now has black grease/oil leaking out the sides where plastic meets metal. Truthfully once I get going I don't like to stop and can be a bit relentless and I was cooking that thing. I wouldn't trust it anymore, the batteries yes, the drill is toast.
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Post by thehandyman on May 9, 2018 21:55:09 GMT -5
Handyman I found a couple reviews on the tool connect drill. Is it teunthst you have to use the app to enable the anti kickback? You use the app to customize a setting, that includes enabling kickback on that setting or all 4 settings. After that, it stays programmed. No need to worry about it unless you want to change. Another nice feature of the Bluetooth tools is the loan feature and the feature where the thrill gets out of range of your phone and it locks the drill so it does not work.
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Post by henrun on May 10, 2018 10:23:28 GMT -5
Yea, I was born and raised in the trades. When I was 10 my dad told me "walk out that door and leave your feelings and then get back in here, we've got work to do". So I'm all for a good positive debate. Do you like the metabo impact? I'm in bfe, so parts and service isn't gonna happen for any brand. I'll chime in on the Metabo Impact. I had the old SSD 18 LTX 200 which was a decent, but dated, machine. Didn't use it all that much though. Metabo does have a new impact out, which I am getting since I landed two decking jobs this summer. It is smaller in footprint, lighter and has more power while it is still a pretty cheap (to buy) machine. I am hoping they got some of the Hitachi DNA into the new machine. The price of the new impact is not much more than the old impact, kudos to Metabo for that. Since I have the batt's I'll be getting the SOLO unit. Confusingly it is named SSD 18 LTX 200 BL, with only the Brushless/BL denomination to distinguish it from the predecessor. I don't think I'll be disappointed with the new impact but for a hands on review I can't get back to you until next week when the outdoor projects start up. I am still very happy with my Mafell A18m bl drill, which runs like a champ.
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Post by zukinut on May 10, 2018 11:59:05 GMT -5
Thanks for that info. I'm leaning towards the metabo, if for nothing else than to try a new platform.
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Post by zukinut on May 10, 2018 21:50:59 GMT -5
Has anyone used any of the newer makita drills?
Curiosity is about to kill this cat.
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Post by aas on May 11, 2018 3:59:11 GMT -5
I gave up on Makita drills a while back, with the old round style 10,8v batteries. Flimsy rubbish. I also still have a BL 18v Makita from about 2016 - too much play in the chuck/shaft, not impressed. I have since got a lot of the Metabo tools and their drills are much better as far as I am concerned. I have a BS 18 LTX Quick Impulse - didn't want the SB as it makes the everyday drill too heavy. Previously had bad experiences with 3 speed gearboxes - again Makita, very difficult to find the middle speed - happy with the 2 speed Metabo.
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Post by zukinut on May 11, 2018 8:07:43 GMT -5
I handled a dcd996 today. Holy hell. That thing is heavy. Hahaha.
I wish there was a non hammer with the anti kickback. Maybe there is, I'll have to take a look.
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Post by henrun on May 12, 2018 3:16:49 GMT -5
Has anyone used any of the newer makita drills? Curiosity is about to kill this cat.
I was going to dig into the Makita 18V system and I was thinking about expanding the Makita line up at the expense of some of my Metabo 18V gear. However I realized early on that I do prefer Metabo. Some of the Makita 18V gear is excellent in build quality and they have a few specialty/novelty items that fit the bill for me. Some are just plain duds like the Makita 18ga nail gun, a chunky and slow piece that should be replaced by something better. The rest is a somewhat similar experience like the jigsaws, none are stellar but the Metabo feels a bit stronger and sturdy in action. The multicutter from Makita is good, the Metabo is about equal. It was a short and somewhat expensive detour into Makita which ended up in me keeping just a few Makita items: the 18V 23ga Pinner, the Stapler, the cute little DLS600 mini mitre saw and the 18V router. And I picked up a biscuit joiner too. That's it. Ah, yes, that new compact full stroke length sabre saw was too good to pass up on - don't recall the model name but it is a great little powerhouse from Makita and it readily replaces both my Metabo sabre saws. The Metabo mitre saw does - with one battery - about as good as the Makita 18V does with two batteries if we are talking about the same sized blades. And at a much lower price. And you get a laser and LED light, which you can't even get with the Makita. The Makita single 18V mitre saw (not the older, but the newer version of the single battery unit) is solidly built but a very slow cutter with low RPM and poor cutting in finer material and also poor cutting performance in thicker material. No Laser, no LED light and very expensive. Selling off the Makita mitre saw made me repurchase a second hand Festool SYM70 and a Metabo chop saw for the same price (!) and made me able to dedicate them to different tasks. My Makita mitre saw venture was aimed at slimming down from four to two mitre saws but I ended up with five (!) but at least one is now permanently in the shop and two are one trick ponies. I still think Makita is a pretty good brand but for my sawing needs and drilling/hammer-drilling/driving screws and with the angle grinder I find Mafell/Metabo a bit better just going on a machine vs machine basis.
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Post by zukinut on May 15, 2018 13:08:25 GMT -5
The mafell has the anti kickback, but metabo doesn't. Wonder how long it'll take to metabo to make one.
I'm an electrician by trade. Nothing sucks more than using a long rod drill inside a wall for it to bind up and slap a wall. That's the biggest reasoning for wanting to have the kickback dealio
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Post by aas on May 16, 2018 5:41:20 GMT -5
The Makita single 18V mitre saw (not the older, but the newer version of the single battery unit) is solidly built but a very slow cutter with low RPM and poor cutting in finer material and also poor cutting performance in thicker material. No Laser, no LED light and very expensive. I have the old single batt 18 volt Makita mitre saw (1999 - NiMh batts!)... converted to run Li-Ions, LED with afterglow added, and zero clearance table and fence... it is slow - 1500rpm, but I've put in an aluminium cutting blade and use it for cutting aluminium LED profiles - I had intended to sell it, but it serves a purpose, don't want a blade spinning too fast when cutting aluminium.
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Post by calidecks on May 16, 2018 23:57:41 GMT -5
The Makita drill and impact I like, are the black ones, but black isn't a color I can use. They get to hot to handle in the summer.
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Post by arvid on May 17, 2018 13:19:30 GMT -5
The Makita drill and impact I like, are the black ones, but black isn't a color I can use. They get to hot to handle in the summer. I have that set and i know what you mean. That and a makita rattler i bought 11 years ago i can't seem to kill.
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Post by henrun on May 19, 2018 15:38:20 GMT -5
The new Metabo impact is en route and should arrive any day now. It was delayed so I missed out on using it on the first build in a long time that I could really have used a rattler for... The Mafell A18 took care of it with ease but a few bolts were a bit tough on the wrist in first gear.
But, a decking build is due next week and the rattler should arrive Monday.
I think it looks good.
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Post by zukinut on May 20, 2018 10:09:22 GMT -5
Handyman, Have you used your dcd997 enough to say whether you like it or not, etc?
If so, please share.
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Post by zukinut on May 21, 2018 8:55:08 GMT -5
So, I called metabo. They said all of their new drills have a slip clutch for when the drill binds. To save the geartrain and the batteries. He was telling me that lithium batteries become volatile when a sudden high amp draw happens.
Will
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