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Post by mafelluser on May 27, 2017 11:26:22 GMT -5
Interesting POV, there...
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Post by holmz on May 27, 2017 17:53:58 GMT -5
I can't wait until the 50 hits the market! As a newcomer to the Mafells (bought an MT55CC just 4 weeks ago), I'm a little gutted to see a cordless KSS 50 and MT 55 appear so soon after I bought my corded version. However, the already-released ' 40 looks like a wonderfully portable unit, if one can manage without 2" DOC. To me, it's not so much the 40mm DOC that would be an issue, for 90 standard deg cuts, but the drastic lack of depth when making bevel cuts - it'd really hurt me, there. Such an easy-to-carry saw, though... As many have noted, it seems the '50' and '55' variants may be the sweet spot for many trades. Wish I was a wealthier man, so I could afford 2 or 3 Mafell saws! (oh, and a P1CC!) Don't despair, they will likely be worth their cost to you. kraftt Avatar May 28, 2017 1:44:23 GMT 9.5 kraftt said: Prob a quite a few tradesmen in your area that would like to own a mafell... ... I can hear them now... "A what? Never heard of them"
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Post by kraftt on May 27, 2017 18:16:56 GMT -5
sigh, too true.
What would be really cool is if Mafell offered a retrofit kit since you can see they just bolted on the new motor / battery armature to what we all have now.
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Post by huntsgemein on May 29, 2017 23:45:24 GMT -5
I can't wait until the 50 hits the market! As a newcomer to the Mafells (bought an MT55CC just 4 weeks ago), I'm a little gutted to see a cordless KSS 50 and MT 55 appear so soon after I bought my corded version. However, the already-released ' 40 looks like a wonderfully portable unit, if one can manage without 2" DOC. To me, it's not so much the 40mm DOC that would be an issue, for 90 standard deg cuts, but the drastic lack of depth when making bevel cuts - it'd really hurt me, there. Such an easy-to-carry saw, though... As many have noted, it seems the '50' and '55' variants may be the sweet spot for many trades. Wish I was a wealthier man, so I could afford 2 or 3 Mafell saws! (oh, and a P1CC!) Well I'd love a new c/less '50 too! In fact, any Mafell saw would be superior to what I'm running now (36v Bosch, Metabo TS254 table and KSE55 plunge/pivot/rail saws. Trouble is, with the current rather parlous state of the South Pacific Peso (Aussie $) and my own personal lack of purchasing power I suspect it'll be a long time coming... I too wish I were a wealthier man: then I might be able to afford just ONE Mafell saw. Which one? That gorgeous little KSS 50 of course: with an X-cut short rail but otherwise stark naked in a cardboard box/T-max, whatever. I can always pick up a pair of cheap Bosch rails later. As good as a P1CC might be, less than 1% of my cutting is with a jiggy, so it would be a graven extravagance, but i can see a KSS (sometime, perhaps far away) in my future, to replace the useless, unguided Bosch and the Metabo with its absolutely awful Festo-like guiderails. Hell, with a well-guided KSS I can see many applications currently dedicated to the table saw becoming redundant, too. It's gonna happen, but how I'm not sure. The household Minister For The Exchequer has eagle eyes and a vengeful disposition.
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Post by calidecks on Jun 7, 2017 23:57:34 GMT -5
I've learned that securing my work, is best for this saw. There's a bit of a learning curve to the cross-cut saws, but once it starts clicking, the full potential can be found. The more I use them the more I like them. I ordered an extra clamp and customized my horses to accept them. Works great, and lumber can be secured quickly. 
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Post by kraftt on Jun 8, 2017 12:19:46 GMT -5
Hard to beat those 'Burros'.
Does the pvc do double duty and connect the sacrificial tops to the horses as well ?
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Post by holmz on Jun 8, 2017 16:44:47 GMT -5
I thought America prefered a horse with no name?
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Post by kraftt on Jun 8, 2017 19:00:01 GMT -5
I ...
you're pretty pleased with yourself right now aren't you.
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Post by calidecks on Jun 8, 2017 21:07:28 GMT -5
Hard to beat those 'Burros'. Does the pvc do double duty and connect the sacrificial tops to the horses as well ? I have 30 of those Burros. As far as the connection, it's screwed from underneath. The screws aren't real long. Just enough to keep it secure.
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Post by mafelluser on Jun 9, 2017 16:16:02 GMT -5
Prob a quite a few tradesmen in your area that would like to own a mafell but can't quite afford the retail price with vat, and who don't mind corded because they don't need to take it out of the shop. Post it for sale locally and see what bites you get, doesn't mean you have to sell. If you bought it as a package/kit with rails, connector, rail carry case, clamps etc. then that should take some of the sting out of letting it go for a fair price because you will keep all that. In fact you should post it without the T-max or blade, just saw since that will be your demographic - meeting the price point that moves it to someone who dreams of one or the shop that has all the toys but could use an extra for employees. These are the bargain hunters (well all of us really) that are even more intrigued that because they only have to buy the saw they can save. Then you sell the T-max later. But I would do this soon 'before' the cordless hits the stores. Many thanks to kraftt for the above, well-considered, contribution, a few days ago. However, after much consideration, I have decided to keep my 230v MT55CC, as it is so new I really can't justify selling, at some loss, having barely used it. Therefore, although I can't afford one at the moment, I rather suspect my first toe-dip into cordless Mafell territory may end up being the KSS40, as it is such a sweet little compact, portable, downright-usable machine, whilst my less-compact/less-lightweight MT55CC will perform for those jobs requiring utmost accuracy over long, straight cuts. It's a bitch having to save up more cash, but I know the MT55CC will earn its investment cost within a year or so, so all is well
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Post by kraftt on Jun 9, 2017 19:27:44 GMT -5
I’d offer that of all mafell’s saw’s it could be argued that the MT55 is perhaps the least necessary to go cordless, unless you only work on-site. (a cordless KSS however seems mandatory). And even if cordless is the only power option offered in the near future the MT55 is still a saw likely to be connected/tethered to a vacuum hose anyways. (more often than not).
I’d also offer up a thought experiment: imagine for a moment that mafell has only ever sold the MT55 in cordless. And you want one. Then one day, because of customer feedback about cost or batteries or something, they come out with a corded version for way less with this motor called a Cuprex Compact. Between the two, along with the cc being bundled with a bunch of accessories, the corded might be considered a very sensible choice, even preferred by many.
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Post by ohan on Jun 10, 2017 15:32:01 GMT -5
Then would you be considering retrofitting the cuprex motor into the cordless housing? 
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Post by calidecks on Jun 10, 2017 15:41:47 GMT -5
I have no intentions of exchanging my mt55cc for a cordless. It serves me better with the vacuum, the power and the auto on feature, you get with the corded version connected to the vac.
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Post by kraftt on Jun 10, 2017 16:47:14 GMT -5
Then would you be considering retrofitting the cuprex motor into the cordless housing? ( no good deed goes unpunished, eh ohan? )
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Post by ohan on Jun 10, 2017 19:35:22 GMT -5
Well, even thought experiments have to stand up to peer review, lol. I appreciate your tinkerer's mind, Kraftt, don't let my ribbing lead you to think otherwise. 
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