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Post by holmz on Jun 10, 2017 20:27:31 GMT -5
Well, even thought experiments have to stand up to peer review, lol. ... Multiple personalities make it easier.
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Post by kraftt on Jun 10, 2017 20:55:04 GMT -5
Well, even thought experiments have to stand up to peer review, lol. I appreciate your tinkerer's mind, Kraftt, don't let my ribbing lead you to think otherwise. No worries, I thought it was funny - for many different reasons. (I’m actually a horrible person on his best behavior here - rib away)
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Post by mafelluser on Jun 11, 2017 11:21:32 GMT -5
Well, even thought experiments have to stand up to peer review, lol. I appreciate your tinkerer's mind, Kraftt, don't let my ribbing lead you to think otherwise. No worries, I thought it was funny - for many different reasons. I dunno about you, but many of my thought experiments have to be censored, and I'm bloody glad they never get seen by my peers, let alone reviewed by them!
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Post by My 2 pennies on Aug 1, 2017 1:58:41 GMT -5
The mt55 240v will always be a good seller because not everybody would want a mafell battery platform.
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Post by mafelluser on Aug 2, 2017 12:34:50 GMT -5
The mt55 240v will always be a good seller because not everybody would want a mafell battery platform. And also because the damn thing actually exists in this time-space reality, unlike the MT55 18M BL, which appears to exist only in the hands of a miniscule number of dealers, and in the microcosm of Mafell HQ's marketing department.
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Post by huntsgemein on Aug 3, 2017 8:40:00 GMT -5
Small/medium enterprises like Mafell stand or fall on reputation alone. As can be evidenced by this very forum, many users are closely connected in all but real-time. Which goes to say that a new product release such as a new range of saws must be "right" first time-every time. Otherwise it will be crowed to the world by the disgruntled owner.
Sometimes, when manufacturers get a little too big for their boots, smug, complacent, arrogant even, they end up alienating a substantial portion of their potential clientele. Not actually naming anybody here, but the bad blood created from a particularly digitally well-connected continent of SCMS users' extremely well publicised tool failures is a case in point. Many have considered themselves metaphorically hung out to dry by the air of disdainful smug, even perhaps callous indifference of a particular manufacturer to these (often repeated) failures. Many unhappy users will no doubt ne'er deign to darken their dealer's doorway again, at least in pursuit of the latest tool release.
The astonishing fact is that some manufacturers expend massive amounts of marketing resources into building what is hoped to be lifetime relationships with potential clients, where the very planned obsolescence of their products will ensure repeat custom for decades to come. Loyalty, however, requires reciprocity. This is marketing 101 on how lifetime business relationships are built. Ignore your customers' (both legitimate & illegitimate) complaints at your peril.
Mafell, unlike Fuss-tool for example, doesn't have legions of obsessively blinkered fan-boys & girls who hang off their each & every media release seemingly as the utterings of a new messiah, cravenly consuming each & every new product offering as if it were the very panacea to end the sufferings of the world (or perhaps merely to satiate their own hoarding instinct). Mafell isn't that big. It doesn't have anywhere near the market presence, penetration, nor (I'm sad to say) reputation (albeit undeserved) of at least one other Teutonic manufacturer.
So they simply can't afford to make mistakes of any sort. A reputation is hard-won, but also easily lost. Mafell instead just gets on with the job, checks, double & triple checks & seems to get it right.
For those of you frustrated with the slow supply of what promises to be an excellent new family of tools, I can only suggest that you console yourselves with the thought that the R&D team, product developers, assembly crews & dispatch & logistics personnel are assuredly veritably burning the midnight oil to ensure your product will deliver: if not actually on time then at least to an assured level of quality & utility that you quite rightly expect. They perhaps need to iron out any possible bugs in early production to meet or exceed end-users' expectations in providing a (truly) premium product.
Would you really have it any other way? Overpriced, unreliable low voltage SCMS, anybody?
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Post by mafelluser on Aug 3, 2017 18:47:24 GMT -5
LOL - my remark was partly tongue-in-cheek, rather than intended to be vitriolic, but perhaps that didn't convey well, what with the limitations of text.
However, since you've raised the point, I agree that I would much rather see any kinks ironed-out before release, rather than rushing to market.
In truth, I'm more surprised than dismayed - I can't help wondering what could be delaying the release, given that Mafell are employing Metabo lithium engineering, and Metabo are well-experienced with that - furthermore, they have been producing 36v saws for quite some time, so halving the voltage, whilst challenging, is hardly reinventing the wheel with a technology alien to Mafell. Added to which, a small quantity of product seems to already have been released to a few distributors, for early appraisal and demonstration purposes, so a (fundamentally) functional product evidently already exists, rather than not having successfully escaped from Mafell's lab/skunkworks.
I would have been vastly more dismayed if I had sold my very new MT55CC in anticipation of replacing it with an MT55 18M BL, which is something I very, very, nearly did (as mentioned earlier in this very thread). I would've been scuppered with a several-month delay without the saw.
But that did not occur, so I am merely a bemused onlooker whose sarcasm regarding the delay in MT55 18M BL hitting shelves may have appeared to be more, but was really little more than that.
I do need to get myself to a UK tool show sometime during the coming 12 months, to hold the forthcoming 18v Mafell saws in my hand, to see how they compare to the MT55CC, which I purchased never having seen one up-close-&-personal (but, to be clear, I am very happy with it). The already-released KSS40 looks lovely, from what I've seen on youtube. So darned dinky, in the hand!
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Post by huntsgemein on Aug 4, 2017 7:51:17 GMT -5
Your post didn't strike me at all as vitriolic. To the contrary, it conveyed perceptions of frustrated anticipation. I was (relatively) wealthy once. Way back in the early 80's I'd saved enough to put my old Ducati bike into semi-retirement, & arranged a German delivery of a new Oz road-legal BMW bike from the factory outlet in Munich. All set for a young man's journey of discovery behind the Iron Curtain.
It took an agonizing four months (including much of Europe's spring) before delivery was scheduled. Can you imagine my sense of trepidation in travelling so far around the globe to make an appointment for an unseen (& possibly undelivered) bike? Of course, this misplaced sense of angst, dread & foreboding was all for naught, as the manufacturer's typically Teutonic, almost anally retentive obsession with ordered punctuality meant that I was actually chastised for being 30 minutes late!
But I couldn't let it go. The vision of a couple of dozen middle aged Stuttgart (well Obendorf anyway) women and some Turkish "Gastarbeiters" beavering away into the wee small hours, fussed over by a harassed young middle management executive type clad in a white lab coat & tie just to get you your saw on time is pure comedy gold. Blame my warped sense of humour.
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Post by calidecks on Sept 25, 2017 21:39:57 GMT -5
Saw, blades, 3 batteries ones a small Bosch2.0ah but works. , the others are Mafell batteries120v charger, red case, 900 or best offer. Kss60 36b you pay shipping. I think there's 5 or 6 unused blades and 4 or 5 that need sharpening. 
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Kss60 36b
Sept 26, 2017 0:06:14 GMT -5
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Post by Trim nailer on Sept 26, 2017 0:06:14 GMT -5
I imagine that does include the guide rail? I'm definitely interested. Could you post a couple pics?
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Post by calidecks on Sept 26, 2017 0:45:10 GMT -5
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Post by calidecks on Sept 26, 2017 0:51:26 GMT -5
These saws didn't come with a bag. I used a remote vacuum switch hooked to the hose. Worked out okay.
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