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Post by ohan on Mar 8, 2017 4:17:30 GMT -5
Were you getting a whole day's worth of work out of the big one? And how long did it take to charge?
Now that you have both cordless KSS saws, do you still use the 40 as much?
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Post by calidecks on Mar 9, 2017 1:16:07 GMT -5
Were you getting a whole day's worth of work out of the big one? And how long did it take to charge? Now that you have both cordless KSS saws, do you still use the 40 as much? I've been doing finish work on a ceiling under a deck. So. Yes I've been using the 40. I'll start a new build Tuesday. That's when I plan on using the 60. I would rather have three smaller batteries on hand in order to get the see lighter. |
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Post by calidecks on Mar 17, 2017 0:54:53 GMT -5
The only complaint so far with the 60 is no brake. Great saw though.
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Post by jm on Mar 17, 2017 7:56:10 GMT -5
2.0Ah battery will cause more voltage sag when pushing the saw hard, especially with the older 18650 batteries that Bosch uses. Using half the batteries to achieve the same voltage means you're pulling twice the amperage from each cell.
But maybe depth of cut is all you need, and you're willing to let up on the saw a little in exchange for the lesser weight.
Either way, those are the caveats.
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Post by calidecks on Mar 18, 2017 22:36:53 GMT -5
2.0Ah battery will cause more voltage sag when pushing the saw hard, especially with the older 18650 batteries that Bosch uses. Using half the batteries to achieve the same voltage means you're pulling twice the amperage from each cell. But maybe depth of cut is all you need, and you're willing to let up on the saw a little in exchange for the lesser weight. Either way, those are the caveats. I was under the impression the 94 was a 2.6Ah. |
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Post by huntsgemein on Mar 18, 2017 23:25:34 GMT -5
I tried those slimline batteries in my mower & it just wouldn't go. As soon as load was placed on the tool it would cut the electronics. It barely had enough juice to even start, yet I can still get around about 20 mins or so per charge even from my very old (Fatpack) batteries in dry grass.
I'd imagine similar performance from the chainsaw too, not that I've actually tried it. Heavy duty tasks like grinding, sawing & mowing really require those 2 rows of cells to draw from. As stated above, those old Samsung? cells just aren't up to the task, which is why all these heavier duty tools are supplied with 20 cell batteries.
With my Bosch 36v saw, it will start, but cuts out under load with the slim batteries. Yet in the saber saw, the hedge shears & the hammer drill the small batteries work fine. Haven't tried them in the SDS at all, but I can imagine the worst, esp. with larger diameter bits, augers or holesaws or when chiselling & chasing.
My recommendation? Don't waste your time. If you want aftermarket cells, try some original Bosch 4.0ah from either the Blue or Garden ranges (same batteries, different livery) or maybe even some of those 6.0 ah "pro" batteries from their professional landscaping ranges. The 4.0 ah. will be the same size & weight as the original Bosch/Mafell 2.6 ah. variety, the latter marginally bigger & heavier. The difference in runtime will make it all worthwhile.
If you want a lightweight saw to hang off all day, however, then a magnesium bodied mains variety from say the Makita, Metabo or Mafell ranges may be more suitable: light, powerful and with all-day stamina. All the things a battery saw isn't nor is likely to become in the forseeable future.
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Post by calidecks on Mar 19, 2017 1:15:05 GMT -5
I tried those slimline batteries in my mower & it just wouldn't go. As soon as load was placed on the tool it would cut the electronics. It barely had enough juice to even start, yet I can still get around about 20 mins or so per charge even from my very old (Fatpack) batteries in dry grass. I'd imagine similar performance from the chainsaw too, not that I've actually tried it. Heavy duty tasks like grinding, sawing & mowing really require those 2 rows of cells to draw from. As stated above, those old Samsung? cells just aren't up to the task, which is why all these heavier duty tools are supplied with 20 cell batteries. With my Bosch 36v saw, it will start, but cuts out under load with the slim batteries. Yet in the saber saw, the hedge shears & the hammer drill the small batteries work fine. Haven't tried them in the SDS at all, but I can imagine the worst, esp. with larger diameter bits, augers or holesaws or when chiselling & chasing. My recommendation? Don't waste your time. If you want aftermarket cells, try some original Bosch 4.0ah from either the Blue or Garden ranges (same batteries, different livery) or maybe even some of those 6.0 ah "pro" batteries from their professional landscaping ranges. The 4.0 ah. will be the same size & weight as the original Bosch/Mafell 2.6 ah. variety, the latter marginally bigger & heavier. The difference in runtime will make it all worthwhile. If you want a lightweight saw to hang off all day, however, then a magnesium bodied mains variety from say the Makita, Metabo or Mafell ranges may be more suitable: light, powerful and with all-day stamina. All the things a battery saw isn't nor is likely to become in the forseeable future. Runtime isn't really a problem with anything anymore. I don't mind swapping out a battery or having a laborer do it once a day to drop a pound off the saw. Never the less if you guys say it won't work as far as power, that's good enough for me. I'll stick with what I have. |
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Post by calidecks on Mar 20, 2017 16:43:29 GMT -5
What's the velcro on the dust port for?
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Post by Eoj on Mar 20, 2017 18:05:25 GMT -5
What's the velcro on the dust port for? To keep power cord inline with vac hose...... link |
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Post by calidecks on Mar 20, 2017 21:47:11 GMT -5
What's the velcro on the dust port for? To keep power cord inline with vac hose...... linkThe 36B doen't have a power cord. Must be a blanket part. |
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Post by calidecks on Mar 22, 2017 0:46:40 GMT -5
Is this just wrong or what?  |
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Post by kraftt on Mar 22, 2017 0:57:50 GMT -5
Nope. Looks like the correct pecking order to me.
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Post by calidecks on Mar 22, 2017 0:58:18 GMT -5
Nope. Looks like the correct pecking order to me. Now that's funny! |
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Post by calidecks on Mar 22, 2017 0:59:59 GMT -5
It works great, actually. I work outdoors, so I don't need complete dust extraction.
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Post by calidecks on Apr 21, 2017 19:17:55 GMT -5
Love these things!   |
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