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Post by GhostFist on May 9, 2016 19:22:33 GMT -5
Ok, so the Fist was a little pissed today. We're doing an install in an 8 million dollar home for a feature film. The production is paying $150 000 a week to the home owner to rent the place. We get the speech about being careful in the home and doing a professional job. The job boss had broken down the jobs to be done and loaded the job box with tools needed for specialty tasks. This includes 3 routers, one router bit, and no wrenches for the routers. Not knowing I couldn't remove the bit from the one router with the bit installed, I decided to bring one of my festool routers for the dc in the home. The "professional" didn't bring the wrenches forever and just figured two carpenters would work together. One to do the routing, the other to hold a vac hose close to the bit in an attempt to control the dust.
How can you be a "professional" without professional equipment? What is the cost of two men to do one person's job and then to clean up all the mess because that system doesn't really work? You still have to vac the whole room down after the fact. What good is three routers with one bit? I guess they figured the wrenches weren't needed as there was only one bit
Rant over. Just tired of the "cheap" way that isn't really cheap.
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Post by jozsefkozma on May 9, 2016 21:57:08 GMT -5
See it all the time Unqualified people telling qualified people what to do and how
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 10, 2016 0:36:14 GMT -5
Sound's like a normal job where the client never understands the biggest cost is labour and to save they need to spend on things like having the right equipment and a skip in my case. So ends up taking longer , I've started having the attitude might as well let them waste money I'm still getting paid
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Post by GhostFist on May 10, 2016 4:18:54 GMT -5
It's just frustrating when you know the end results could be so much better with the proper systems in place
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Post by holmz on May 10, 2016 6:46:47 GMT -5
As the devil's advocate, the project manager usually has a chart with triangles and various check lists. They do not really have a need to understand the process to manage. At least that is what the Devil tells me... And the AC/DC tune often rings in my mind when I see it.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 10, 2016 6:54:26 GMT -5
Yep the customer knows best, doesn't mean thactually know what is best
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 10, 2016 7:03:42 GMT -5
As the devil's advocate, the project manager usually has a chart with triangles and various check lists. They do not really have a need to understand the process to manage. At least that is what the Devil tells me... And the AC/DC tune often rings in my mind when I see it. Yes ,but a good manager listens to the people doing the job and brings it all together through good management
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Post by holmz on May 10, 2016 18:45:30 GMT -5
As the devil's advocate, the project manager usually has a chart with triangles and various check lists. They do not really have a need to understand the process to manage. At least that is what the Devil tells me... And the AC/DC tune often rings in my mind when I see it. Yes ,but a good manager listens to the people doing the job and brings it all together through good management I the yin and yang, black-n-white, good-n-evil... I only mentioned the devil version. I have no issues with the good ones. there seems to be a distribution of both.
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Post by GhostFist on May 10, 2016 21:34:41 GMT -5
This is more a culture of work practice in my field than anything. The "old school" way of thinking. "Expensive tools are a waste of money". When it comes to the healthier environment, the ease of achieving a higher quality finish in less time, the saved money in labour costs. I don't understand how people can continue to be so thick.
I'll keep wasting my money, and in the process out perform the pig headed
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May 11, 2016 11:49:58 GMT -5
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Post by GhostFist on May 11, 2016 11:49:58 GMT -5
BTW use this thread to air your gripes!
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 11, 2016 12:20:05 GMT -5
Yep you can't always change the mindset of ignorant
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Post by luzzy on May 16, 2016 17:53:21 GMT -5
BTW use this thread to air your gripes! So I thought of this thread today and wanted to add to it. 1) Why is there no light on the p1cc? I mean , really? if only they thought to charge enough money to cover the cost of the small LED needed:( 2) So we showed up in the hotel that we are finishing this bleacher project. The days work consist of notching dust shelves into these deep window mullions. Approx 20' of work that will require lots of scribing and fitting and more panel fitting. The room we are working in has concrete floors and brick/block walls. No fabric is present anywhere within 150 feet. I was greeted with "you'll have to cut in the Back of the House areas today as the designers are working here." A mere 500' feet away. Mind you I have the KSS40 and a festool vac hooked up for any long rips and the bag on for simple cuts. Nothing like making it take twice as long. Ok I feel better now.
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