KSS 60 cc (corded) user input and general thoughts

Size in mm as per request:
Width 235mm and Height 245mm give or take a mm. The blade guard/shroud is a bit tapered so the width of the machine is a few mm more than when measured across the motor unit to blade guard but measured at the widest part it is 235mm.

The motor unit overhangs the base plate.

Plug-It cord very easy to fit - a few minutes with stripping down the Plug It and fitting it in the handle properly.

Fits nicely in a Systainer 4 with extra blades, manual and parallel guide. I have got a soft bottom insert for the Systainer but haven't had time to cut it down as of yet.

Speaking of cutting, I did try plunging the KSS60cc on and off the rails. Plunging is a bit wobbly to be honest on the FSN Rails. Heiko would disapprove .

It took me two cuts to get the hang of it:

Release plunge lock, plunge lever slightly forward and then plunge the saw - it goes down easily into the material but it is not a smooth operation like with the "real" plunge saws. On the FSN rail it does wiggle a little laterally which is annoying!

I don't use the depth setting lever - I just plunge down slowly and use the plunge/depth lock lever when I have reached the desired depth. I have my left hand thumb on the lever and "brake and lock" the plunge. I found that using the plunge lever and then locking with the locking lever gave me less control than just plunging and locking.

On the 770 rail the plunging action is better than on the FSN rail. This is thanks to the more sturdy cross cut rail holding the bottom plate more securely in place when plunging. No wobble with the cross cut rail.  Unfortunately for some plunge cuts the cross cut rail  will be a problem - like when the cross cut rail does not fit (board against a wall with no room for the 770 and the 400 is too short). 

In comparison the KSS300 is _much_ easier to plunge. I would say the KSS60cc plunge action is a bit worse than I had hoped.

Dust extraction when plunging is a bit messy. Usually not a problem for me but needs to be taken into account at times. I did a few plunges in particle board with a thin and hard melamine surface. It spat dust all over and back in my face. The blade is a bit worn (accident as written earlier in the thread) and the quality of cut is therefore not the best... I didn't bother to change blades for the test plunge.

As a whole dust extraction is a little weaker than expected but in the same league as the KSS300 if you take the size into account. I had hoped for better but isn't "bad". It isn't "great" either. Virtually every plunge saw does a whole lot better.

I still really like the saw and I can foresee a whole lot of use for it from my part. It is probably a worthy successor to the KSS400 for sure. It doesn't cut well enough or plunge well enough for me to have it as my "only" saw but when I need to cut really delicate materials I have the large format saw as well as the Bosch Plunge saw.

There is still not one saw that really does it all but the KSS60cc expands the versatility of the KSS300/KSS400 a little further.

I haven't figured out if it fits the Flexirail - I haven't tried it. I suspect it won't but I will have to check it out - it would be really handy to fit the Flexirail into the SYS4 with the saw.

I would almost say that this is a great Contractors saw that expands a little into finishing work but does not quite match the better plunge saws for cut quality. I need to try the 56 tooth blade for some fine cuts and see. The 32 tooth blade is a little coarse for some materials.  It excels on standard wood cutting tasks though like studs and boards though! 

Mark; even though I am highlighting a few negatives with the saw I do think it is a great and very versatile saw. On my most recent project I could leave the chop saw at the shop and do practically all cutting with the KSS60cc to great effect.

If you are mainly working with sheet goods I would suggest a plunge saw but for the odd cuts, flooring, general woodworking and chop sawing the KSS line is very handy.

I really like the little KSS300 and I will not get rid of it - the small size is hard to beat and I still have use for it.

Henrun, thanks for the heads up.
I have the 18v kss40, which i use most of the time. Mostly for flooring, kitchens and interior doors.
Ill probably use the 60 for decking and thick fire doors. I like the 770 rail. how much extra is it?

A side note regarding the size of the machine: since it does fit in a # 4 Systainer (with normal placement i.e. base plate down) I am happy with the size. The width is just right for propping up a few extra blades to one side and there is a little room to spare up to the lid even with a soft bottom insert.

I have to compare it to the Bosch GKT CE 55 machine but it seems they are roughly the same size, the KSS60cc doesn't feel a whole lot bigger.

If business continues to be strong next year I will probably add the MT55cc. Might as well go for broke.

I purchased the KSS400 a few months back, been very happy. Thought I'd replace with the KSS60 for the extra capacity, specifically depth of cut. To my surprise the difference is not that great. Per the Mafell specs, with attached track the depth of the KSS400 at 49.5mm vs 61mm for the KSS60 is a little under 1/2 inch. You do get variable speed, but with added weight of almost 1kg or a little over 2 lbs. The cutting length is only 8mm additional on the KSS60. Whichever you choose, great saws. If I was doing serious framing, I'd be looking at the KSS80, but for my needs the KSS400 is the sweet spot. Maybe the KSS400 will one day be renamed the KSS50?

I'm on for a 60! Can't find it for sale in the uk so am going to order from Germany early this week unless anyone knows of a uk source that's competitive price wise.

If I do go for the German option I might bundle it with a zeta p2.