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Post by bohemian on Nov 6, 2015 6:39:54 GMT -5
New to this site, first post etc. as I have only just bought my first Mafell machine. It's a P1cc jigsaw as I was not at all impressed with the Festool Carvex 420.
I love Festool stuff and have a lot of their tools, I think it's a genius system for both workshop and on-site work, but I have never liked the Carvex, I think it has a lot of faults. I've just tried the P1cc for the last 90 minutes and I'm thoroughly impressed in every way. It's brilliant and I love it. The Carvex will soon be on eBay because I know I won't be using it anymore.
This has made me think of (and be very tempted by) the MT55cc saw, though I have no concerns with the Festool TS 55R, I'm thinking is the Mafell a lot better? It would be used on Festool guide rails.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Ian
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Post by lincoln on Nov 6, 2015 7:22:14 GMT -5
Hey Ian, welcome to the forum.
I also just got the P1, and I'm also blown away by it.
I have an MT55, and yes, it is definitely a better saw. It replaced a TS55, that gave me seven good years of use. The MT has better dust extraction, more power, scoring feature, brilliant blade changing system and the accessories are fantastic. Tilting is also much easier, and more accurate. The rail system is the best available - would you consider it, or do you use your Festool rails for other tools as well? When I sold my TS55, I kept a couple of rails to use with my Festool 1400 router.
Lincoln.
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Post by charley1968 on Nov 6, 2015 7:40:24 GMT -5
Welcom aboard, Bohemian
Concrats to your jigsaw and may you never regret your choice!
Regarding the MF55: i wouldn't buy a new saw cuz the TS 55 competently does what it's supposed to be doing. That said: i do woodworking as a hobby, not to earn my dough..
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Post by bohemian on Nov 6, 2015 9:15:01 GMT -5
I was considering buying an MT55 package with 2 rails. I am already heavily invested in Festool - MFT/3 that also gets used for a router a lot so that has to remain as a Festool rail, as well as several other rails. If the MT55 runs on Festool rails like the TS55R does then it wouldn't be a problem, besides as the Mafell package includes 2 rails I might find myself being yet more Mafell converted...
My first impressions of the P1cc is that it is absolutely wonderful. Way better than the Carvex. Is the MT55 way better than the TS55R even when used on a Festool guide rail? Would the MT55 need any re-adjusting between work on both the Mafell and then a Festool rail?
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Post by jonathan on Nov 6, 2015 9:29:34 GMT -5
The difference between Festool's track saw and Mafell's isn't as big as it is between the jigsaws.
Although the MT55 works on both rails, you can't instantly switch between them. Obviously you have to re-adjust for the amount of play on a different type of rail.
That said, the Mafell is just a tad better at everything a track saw needs to do. Also the rail system is nicer in my opinion. The only thing missing is parallel guides for the rails.
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Post by bohemian on Nov 6, 2015 10:50:05 GMT -5
Thank you for the quick replies. I'm very tempted by the MT55 but I have so much invested in Festool that I must resist this temptation... Not only Festool power tools, but I have a large and heavily modified MFT, as well as a guide rail case I made for 2 x 1400 rails, an 800 rail, connectors etc. and 2 levels.
It is how I thought it would be - that the difference between Festool and Mafell jigsaws is the big one...
Thanks again, Ian
But I am still very tempted by the Mafell guide rail connection system...
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Nov 6, 2015 11:13:02 GMT -5
Thier is no need to go out and change everything today. If your ts is doing its job and you're happy with it I'd recommend keeping until times you're ready to change
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Post by GhostFist on Nov 6, 2015 14:30:51 GMT -5
Best jigsaw hands down, the p1cc. It a must have tool
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Post by holmz on Nov 6, 2015 20:35:30 GMT -5
I do this as a hobby as well.
I put the Bosch rail on my MFT.
I got a Bosch OFA Kit 800 which has the FSN-OFA router adapter.
The Mafell or Bosch router fits as well as the Festool 1100.. (I have a LO50).
I cannot compare the TS55 with the MT55, as I have only used the later, but the MT55 is nice.
So I got 3x 1600--mm rails (one for the MFT cut down with the p1cc), and two that get used for sheet either connected or singly for cross cuts,
The Mafell rail bag is worth having to store the rails, clamps, and mitre deal with the OFA Kit 800
Your options are switch to Bosch rails and use the FSN-OFA adapter for the router, and dispose of the FT rails, or use the Mt55 on the FT rail.
The TS75 is problematic as it requires the FT rail, and the p1cc is problematic as I do not believe it fits on the FT rail.
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Post by erik on Nov 7, 2015 11:28:40 GMT -5
I noticed a difference between the saws, but I could have been perfectly content with the ts 55/75; it was the rail connector and the need for portability that clinched it for me. If I was solely a shop/garage builder, with the room for the long rails, I wouldn't have looked for a slightly better saw.
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Post by mattuk on Nov 7, 2015 11:56:36 GMT -5
Hi Bohemian.
I too used a Bosch jigsaw for many years, followed by the Festool carvex before stumbling on this forum and the P1CC. It is a great tool, the others are now sold.
I came from a TS75 to the MT55 ( plus a few bits since ). The TS75 was good, right until the point that I needed to join two rails together. I frequently needed to cut panels 2800 long, yet needed to transport the rails in the car. The rail connection system on the Mafell / Bosch rails is much better.
There is also a fixing point nearer the cutting edge on the mafell / bosch rails enabling easier clamping for smaller rips.
If you need to join rails regularly I would have a look for the Bosch rails. You will find some good bargains out there. Likewise the Bosch jointing bar for the rails is normally more cost effective than the Mafell equivalent.
Cheers
Matt
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