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Post by charley1968 on Nov 5, 2015 12:42:33 GMT -5
Have been checking some of the tf-threads and i almost exclusively mortice and tenon joints with the occasional half-lap thrown in. Are there other commonly used joining-techniques in european/northamerican timber framing? Best regards: Andi
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Post by Red on Nov 6, 2015 12:14:01 GMT -5
Have been checking some of the tf-threads and i almost exclusively mortice and tenon joints with the occasional half-lap thrown in. Are there other commonly used joining-techniques in european/northamerican timber framing? Best regards: Andi Although there are certain similarities in much of the joinery employed by timber framers, there are variations. There are various scarf joints for extending timbers, for example, and there are tying joints for bringing multiple frame members together, but, as I just mentioned, there are similarities in the types of joinery when it comes to traditional TF.
Joinery is a fairly broad subject, Charley, but it is safe to say that traditional joinery is about more than just a mortise on one end of given timber and a tenon on the end of another.
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Post by charley1968 on Nov 6, 2015 12:20:27 GMT -5
Thanks, Red! I'll be checking up on scarf joints.. This is exactly the kind of information i'm looking for..terminology explained! I know a wee bit about joints in carpentry and i know that tf can get quite 'involved' as well ( shifter cuts etc.), so i certainly did not want to reduce tf to mere m+ t joinery..
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Nov 6, 2015 12:29:54 GMT -5
There is an excellent video of a Japanese scarf joint need to find
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Post by charley1968 on Nov 6, 2015 12:38:05 GMT -5
Thanx,Wright!
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Post by Red on Nov 6, 2015 12:40:42 GMT -5
Thanks, Red! I'll be checking up on scarf joints.. This is exactly the kind of information i'm looking for..terminology explained! I know a wee bit about joints in carpentry and i know that tf can get quite 'involved' as well ( shifter cuts etc.), so i certainly did not want to reduce tf to mere m+ t joinery.. If certain terms have you puzzled, Charley, please feel free to ask. As old as it is, Traditional TF has developed its own vocabulary.
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Post by Red on Nov 6, 2015 12:44:26 GMT -5
There is an excellent video of a Japanese scarf joint need to find If you dig enough, you'll find a link to the video you're describing here on the MUF, Wright. I remember the video because I recall making a comment about how well they recorded the process of scarfing timbers.
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Post by charley1968 on Nov 6, 2015 12:54:46 GMT -5
A bit OT: when i read the word scarf -joint i thought about scarves. Then i thought: hold on, the swedish word/verb 'att skarva' means to join, without visible line( ideally..) now i'll never forget what a scarf joint is.
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Post by holmz on Nov 6, 2015 20:43:40 GMT -5
Yes some english come from German, e.g. Craft. Some comes from Swedish, e.g. Skill. So you're 2/3 of the way to English 
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Post by ohan on Nov 7, 2015 2:38:34 GMT -5
Would anyone care to recommend any books for TF self-study? I was pointed to a book by Ted Benson, but IMO it was more of a "coffee table book" (i.e. mostly pictures of interiors) vs. an actual shop practice manual. Maybe it was the wrong book? I see he has several.. Looking at books on Amazon, does anyone have an opinion on the books by Sobon and/or Chappell?
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Post by Red on Nov 7, 2015 3:31:44 GMT -5
Would anyone care to recommend any books for TF self-study? I was pointed to a book by Ted Benson, but IMO it was more of a "coffee table book" (i.e. mostly pictures of interiors) vs. an actual shop practice manual. Maybe it was the wrong book? I see he has several.. Looking at books on Amazon, does anyone have an opinion on the books by Sobon and/or Chappell? Both authors and/or highly-skilled craftsmen -- Sobon and Chappell -- have published books that are staples of the craft...and, you're right, Tedd Benson's books seem to be !WOW! books designed to convince monied folks to buy CNC-milled timber frames.
Build a Classic Timber-Framed House by Jack Sobon is a good place to start when it comes to reading about the basics of traditional timber framing. A Timber Framer's Workshop: Joinery, Design & Construction of Traditional Timber Frames by Steve Chappell is another classic TF book that gets more into the calculations and other concepts involved with the actual design of traditional timber frames.
Either book will give a beginner more than enough to decide whether or not traditional timber framing is for him.
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Post by ohan on Nov 7, 2015 3:37:58 GMT -5
Thanks Red. Just saw the other thread that asked basically the same question I did; sorry for the duplication.
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