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Post by erik on May 15, 2015 20:43:16 GMT -5
I think Festool made the smaller router for Mafell and Mafell made the larger router for Festool, the 2000 model. I'm sure someone has used the 2000 and 2200. I picked up the 2200 on a recon sale and for shop work, its been a pleasure, I use the 1010 for quick, on site work...actually once in a while I use all three of Festools routers for jobsite work, no complaints.
Also, I've seen the 2000 model show up on recon sales for around 235.
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Post by Red on May 16, 2015 0:40:03 GMT -5
I appreciate the hyperlink, Lincoln.
Let me try to explain why words like "tilting" and "angular" can be very intriguing to a timber framer.
Ideally, every right angle in a frame's design should be braced (whenever and wherever possible).
Bracing inherently involves angled "pockets" being cut into vertical and corresponding horizontal
frame members and, as you can imagine, this involves a lot of repetitive angled chisel work.
Anything that can be used to expedite one of the most common cuts in timber framing will always
be interesting to anyone faced with a long joint cut list.
Thanks again ...
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Post by holmz on May 16, 2015 3:09:00 GMT -5
I appreciate the hyperlink, Lincoln.
Let me try to explain why words like "tilting" and "angular" can be very intriguing to a timber framer.
Ideally, every right angle in a frame's design should be braced (whenever and wherever possible).
Bracing inherently involves angled "pockets" being cut into vertical and corresponding horizontal
frame members and, as you can imagine, this involves a lot of repetitive angled chisel work.
Anything that can be used to expedite one of the most common cuts in timber framing will always
be interesting to anyone faced with a long joint cut list.
Thanks again ... Let me ask a simpleton question(s): 1) Why do people go with massive timber frames rather than stick? (Design, cost, some performance or aesthetics?) The look intrigues me but I can hardly find information on it and cost details. |
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 16, 2015 3:27:01 GMT -5
I'm guessing the person going for the timber frame option goes for it over stick is because it gives the wall factor. Where stick form can be pretty mundane
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Post by Red on May 16, 2015 12:01:02 GMT -5
Let me ask a simpleton question(s): 1) Why do people go with massive timber frames rather than stick? (Design, cost, some performance or aesthetics?) The look intrigues me but I can hardly find information on it and cost details.
Obviously, a well-built traditional timber frame is very labor intensive and, therefore, more expensive than a balloon/stick type structure, so they're usually commissioned by folks who can afford to wait. As the load bearing elements of a timber frame are clearly visible to its occupants, the owner(s) is/are usually big fans of the "wood look."
As for myself, I would say that there's something very gratifying about always being able to see exactly what went into creating such a strong type of building. |
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Post by holmz on May 16, 2015 21:02:55 GMT -5
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Post by GhostFist on Mar 7, 2016 18:35:03 GMT -5
Well to continue my spending spree. I just picked up a 2200. Dust collection and power being the deciding factors. I've mentioned that I'm suddenly running a shop for a TV pilot. to date I've managed to keep the work efficient, accurate and clean. We just got through processing over 200 sheets of 10' mdf (3/4"). Mt55 for cross cutting off the pile, of1010 for some edge routing and the deros for sanding. The shop is in prestine condition with just those three tools. Nextel job for us is some raised panel oak doors....and so I bought the 2200.
A clean shop is worth more to me than the initial (not cheap) price of the 2200. Our paint department shares our space as well as props and set dec. Dust on their gear costs big time in labour, ppe, and finish prep. I've yet to see a router do better than the 2200.
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Post by R cash on Mar 7, 2016 21:35:06 GMT -5
I have 2 of the 2200 routers loved the first one so much when a local lumber yard wanted to clear stock. I grab the second one for almost Half price  good day. Best by far of the heavy duty routers. Have not even seen anyone with a Mafell router in California |
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Post by holmz on Mar 8, 2016 3:05:52 GMT -5
The LO50 seems like it is similar to a QF1400 in feel.
I have n LO50, and I like it. After fondling a QF1400 at a shop they seemed like brothers.
And then I read the other day on FOG that the old QF1000 was an LO50, and that the LO65 was the older QF2000.
So I guess they (LO-65 & QF2000) are pretty similar... Whether the QF2200 is like the LO-65 I have no idea.
Whether this is correct I do not know, but I read it on the web so it must be.
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Post by GhostFist on Mar 8, 2016 5:15:58 GMT -5
We all know that the Internet doesn't lie. There's some added features on the 2200 that aren't present on the lo65. The dust collar, the edge routing cup, removable bases. As well as some added ergonomics. I'm sure the 65 is a solid heavy duty machine. I just see it as an outdoors router while the 2200 is perfect for site or shop.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Mar 8, 2016 7:07:32 GMT -5
I'll agree with that
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Post by Knight Woodworks on Mar 8, 2016 18:03:08 GMT -5
Congrats on the new router.
I like mine, wish Festool would redesign the 1010 & 1400 with the same sort of DC.
John
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Post by GhostFist on Mar 8, 2016 18:49:45 GMT -5
1010 with a better integrated dust port.don't change anything else.
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Post by jonathan on Mar 9, 2016 4:03:53 GMT -5
Agreed, I really dislike the integrated dust port on the OF1010 and it's the exact reason I haven't bought it.
The new Bosch router with digital height gauge also looks really good, but again, shoddy dust extraction with a dust port that's too small integrated in the base.
A shame really.
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Post by GhostFist on Mar 9, 2016 5:19:50 GMT -5
Dust extraction is still excellent on the 1010. The oblong connection port is a small annoyance on an otherwise highly capable router.
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good day. Best by far of the heavy duty routers. Have not even seen anyone with a Mafell router in California