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Post by Red on May 14, 2015 13:40:26 GMT -5
First, I am a Mafell tool owner, so please don't take this thread as an invite to, or a way to, bash brands.
I've been considering an OF 2200 EB for quite some time now and it suddenly occurred to me that the some [lucky] folks on the MUF might have used both of the big routers offered by Mafell and Festool.
If anyone has any direct experience with both of these routers, I'd be most grateful for your thoughts. Comparing the published spec's, it would seem that the Festool router has a cut depth advantage -- a big plus in my line of work -- but, for all I know, the Mafell might have certain advantages of its own that I have no clue about.
Thanks for your time ...
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Post by jacko on May 14, 2015 16:07:13 GMT -5
First, I am a Mafell tool owner, so please don't take this thread as an invite to, or a way to, bash brands.
I've been considering an OF 2200 EB for quite some time now and it suddenly occurred to me that the some [lucky] folks on the MUF might have used both of the big routers offered by Mafell and Festool.
If anyone has any direct experience with both of these routers, I'd be most grateful for your thoughts. Comparing the published spec's, it would seem that the Festool router has a cut depth advantage -- a big plus in my line of work -- but, for all I know, the Mafell might have certain advantages of its own that I have no clue about.
Thanks for your time ... I bough the Elu (3337 I think) heavy duty plunge router several years back and it looks a lot like the two you mentioned. Jack
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Post by holmz on May 14, 2015 16:29:03 GMT -5
There is also a tilting base job by a company that starts with V (many vitrilux) ..., just to further confusion.
I am not sure whether it makes sense to have a large and a small router or just large router... But your thread is timely.
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Post by holmz on May 14, 2015 16:35:23 GMT -5
First, I am a Mafell tool owner, so please don't take this thread as an invite to, or a way to, bash brands. ...
I think one their routers was a Mafell, so it is like stoning someone to death because they have a different last name... And then realizing it was your twin sister. Who makes the drills by the way? The Bosch, Metabo, FT, Mafell, AEG all look like they have a similar bone structure and just tarted up with different colour top skins. Or is the detachable centrotec drive more of a DIN standard now that is shared?
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Post by lincoln on May 14, 2015 17:05:28 GMT -5
Can't help with the comparison, because I haven't seen the Mafell, but can't imagine anyone being disappointed with the OF 2200. It's a beast of a router, but with a high degree of finesse.
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Post by GhostFist on May 14, 2015 17:16:28 GMT -5
2200 has some pretty sweet features. Better dust collection for sure. Haven't used the mafell. Mafell as far as I know is the only router compatible with the arunda system if you're eyeing that.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 14, 2015 18:17:13 GMT -5
No experience with using the of2200 I did pick it up several times in the shop and I personally felt it felt top heavy and the weight was above my hands. Where with the lo65 the weight was more in my hands and I felt was better balance the festool does have a lot more gizmos like the ratcheting or rocker thing to take the cutters off. I'm not that sure if that is such an important feature. Generally when I take a router bit there is only two times you need the spanner st the start and near the end. The the other times I use the old thumb and fingers. Then when replacing the cutter its only at the very end the spanner is needed. The hole in the base of the mafell is 50mm I think I think on the festool is bigger but not sure on that. The of2200 has the deeper depth of plunge. On the mafell thier is 6 bearings 3 top and bottom to keep the shaft absolutely balanced not sure the arrangements on the of2200. It all comes down to what is important and what is not.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 14, 2015 18:38:46 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the festool can be used as well. The advantage the mafell has is 2600 watt motor compared to 2200. The base on the lo65 has the threaded holes for the base. Three locking points meaning the router can't slip up or down. It comes with the adapter for you arunda dovetail bit which has an m12 thread. I'm sure arunda has more details on pros and cons on the different routers
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Post by 7 on May 14, 2015 23:04:02 GMT -5
I have the OF1010 & 1400 but always hear about the OF2200 being awesome. I don't think I have ever heard anything negative from anyone that owns it. I think Festool did a great job on that one. I don't know much about the Mafell but I would lean towards the Festool on that one just from reading reviews on it.
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Post by holmz on May 14, 2015 23:40:43 GMT -5
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Post by wrightwoodwork on May 15, 2015 3:11:58 GMT -5
I'm the same I would love have a shot of doing them. The lignatool version was at Ligna and I did have a look at the system and spoke to the guy on it a little bit. The dovetail jig is shown on the website. Yet thier other products aren't. I've being told the website is getting updated. In the uk it is something I haven't seen or properly ever will
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Post by Red on May 15, 2015 12:42:06 GMT -5
I just went through the link posted by Holmz and it's interesting that Arunda identified the LO 65 Ec as the only router powerful enough for their template system.
Here's an excerpt from the Arunda link found under the heading of "Other Routers" (Relative to the LO 65 E and Ec): All other routers are less powerful (except one model that has not fulfilled the other requirements). Most of them offer a power output that is clearly insufficient and they thus do not resist the heavy milling work.
I know that Scheer, another German manufacturer of power tools, sells a 2600W router, as well, but perhaps that's what Arunda meant with the words "...except one model that has not fulfilled the other requirements."
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Post by Red on May 15, 2015 15:35:33 GMT -5
There is also a tilting base job by a company that starts with V (many vitrilux) ..., just to further confusion. Tilting base? Will you please elaborate on this, Holmz?
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Post by lincoln on May 15, 2015 17:24:56 GMT -5
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Post by MrToolJunkie on May 15, 2015 20:28:40 GMT -5
I own the 2200 and it is a dream machine - one in which the engineers got everything right. I think it is very well balanced and just pushes through the work - deep mortises and cuts are a breeze with the right bit. I have never wanted for power and think this could handle anything thrown at it - I have even used a 3 inch panel raising bit handheld and it was so smooth it just made the cut - no issue at all. DC is great, ergonomics are great and it is very robust. One of my favorites. I think that Festool used to make routers for Mafell -- the smaller one is based on the OF1010 and at one time the larger router Festool made was also made under the Mafell name. COuld be vice versa - Mafell makes them for Festool. But they are very similar.
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