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Post by henrun on Jan 9, 2017 6:51:41 GMT -5
MrToolJunkie: they have simply worn out over time. One of them got pushed a little hard, but just occasionally and not often. I have larger drills for larger tasks and I tend to use them accordingly.The other was just "old". They started to drop in power and smell a little "off" in use. I can probably find out exactly how old they are/were as they were registered. One of them is still in use - I gave it to a friend. I do think brushless is the way to go for these little cuties.  |
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Jan 9, 2017 23:59:00 GMT -5
MrToolJunkie: they have simply worn out over time. One of them got pushed a little hard, but just occasionally and not often. I have larger drills for larger tasks and I tend to use them accordingly.The other was just "old". They started to drop in power and smell a little "off" in use. I can probably find out exactly how old they are/were as they were registered. One of them is still in use - I gave it to a friend. I do think brushless is the way to go for these little cuties. You must use drills more than me. I have only burned up a couple pushing them too hard, but never wore one out through regular use. I am hoping the PDC and TXS I just bought will last me awhile. I have a C12 that I like and I am waiting for the new bodies with the better belt hook arrive to upgrade it to an 18v. |
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Post by henrun on Jan 10, 2017 13:49:33 GMT -5
MrToolJunkie: Yes, the problem is when I was driving a lot of medium sized screws continuously over a period, that did take a toll on my CXS that got "worn out" and dropped in performance - even with new batteries. I felt compelled to use the CXS since I was working a lot over my head and the power was sufficient on the CXS and the belt clip is excellent. One CXS was driven beyond it's capabilities and started to smell up immediately, that one was on me. I did not hesitate to get two new CXS drills and I baby them a little more now. I am thinking they will last me until something new comes along. Couch cough brushless cough. Over here the T18/C18 with better belt hook are out on the market. I did upgrade my T18, it is a good belt clip. The C12 (NiMH) is still "the best built" drill I have ever used. A little on the heavy side but there is something to the way it drills and drives that even the newer drills haven't matched. I miss it at times. The C18 does not feel quite the same though it is stronger drill, and comes with an LED. The C18 is a nice machine though. |
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Jan 10, 2017 20:23:23 GMT -5
MrToolJunkie: Yes, the problem is when I was driving a lot of medium sized screws continuously over a period, that did take a toll on my CXS that got "worn out" and dropped in performance - even with new batteries. I felt compelled to use the CXS since I was working a lot over my head and the power was sufficient on the CXS and the belt clip is excellent. One CXS was driven beyond it's capabilities and started to smell up immediately, that one was on me. I did not hesitate to get two new CXS drills and I baby them a little more now. I am thinking they will last me until something new comes along. Couch cough brushless cough. Over here the T18/C18 with better belt hook are out on the market. I did upgrade my T18, it is a good belt clip. The C12 (NiMH) is still "the best built" drill I have ever used. A little on the heavy side but there is something to the way it drills and drives that even the newer drills haven't matched. I miss it at times. The C18 does not feel quite the same though it is stronger drill, and comes with an LED. The C18 is a nice machine though. Thanks - I have the Lithium Ion C12 that I got on clearance when they phased them out. It is a good drill, but larger form factor to the CXS and TXS. I really want one of the new Fein 12 volt drills, butthe lack of 90 degree chuck is a deal breaker for me (I understand that they are supposed to come out with one sometime in 2017, but who knows). I use a right-angle chuck often enough that I need that capability and do not want to mess with a dedicated drill. |
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Post by henrun on Jan 11, 2017 12:44:11 GMT -5
Yes, that Fein 12V ASCM is a beauty, isn't it? I have also heard that an angle chuck is coming but again, who knows when. The drill has a very nice feel to it though it isn'that much smaller than a T18. But that drill and the MultiTalent would be a nice little kit to have in a small systainer, perhaps with that little impact drill too.  There is also talk of higher Ah 12V batteries and I think that for the Multitalent 2Ah is a bit weak. I am a drill hoarder so I honestly hope they DON'T bring that angle chuck out too soon! I have a dealership bonus coming up in February and that bonus goes towards tools so I usually end up splurging out on something I like - unless of course there is something I really need. I don't really need anything at the moment. |
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Post by dlhunter on Dec 3, 2019 18:09:18 GMT -5
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Post by michaels on May 27, 2021 15:20:11 GMT -5
OLD thread... sorry for bringing it back up.
I bought a Mafell MT55cc as my first track saw a few years ago and love it! I am finding I would really like a cordless track saw now but I have mostly all Dewalt cordless tools. When the battery on my seldom used but priceless when it is used Ryobi cordless caulking gun died I simply bought a Dewalt battery to Ryobi tool adapter off of ebay and have been using Dewalt 20v batteries with it since without any issues.
My understanding is the Mafell MT55 18M saw uses Metabo batteries? Is the Metabo battery design interchangeable with Bosch 18v bateries? I am thinking of purchasing a Mafell MT55 18M track saw and a Dewalt battery to Metabo adapter off ebay so I don't have to support another brand of batteries. If that doesn't work I will just buy a Dewalt cordless track saw and tracks.
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Post by alvychippy on May 27, 2021 16:17:21 GMT -5
If that doesn't work I will just buy a Dewalt cordless track saw and tracks. Trust me, you'll end up selling it or dumping it at home. I still have cordless DeW- utter garbage in comparison. 18v batteries (with adapter) are very near interchangeable, as long as discharge rate (AH) as rule of a thumb is comparable, BUT looking at where it's fitted with adapter (if it'll fit) it will unbalance MT55 cordless. Saying all that for consideration only, as Metabo batteries are fairly priced and if you think of buying £600 saw MT55BL, couple of 5.2AH batteries (they are well cheap lately), seen at £65 each- you should be able to afford it. Once again, if you are serious about DeW- find a way as how to try it before buying one.  |
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Post by aas on May 28, 2021 5:22:23 GMT -5
Metabo batteries are not compatible with Bosch. If you already have Bosch batteries, they do a cordless plunge saw.
I tried consolidating platforms, it doesn't work. I'm happy for you if DeWalt is working out for you, depends on the work you do of course. They do some good solid tools, but very few 'best in class'... if you want best in class of everything, you end up with well over 5 battery platforms (I must be on nearly ten now!)
To be fair, it is best to have a battery for each tool, so changing platforms just adds an extra charger - they are light and cheap - so now I just get the best in class tool, and stop worrying about what brand it is.
The MT55 18v is the best in class. The CAS battery platform also allows you to buy several manufacturers tools on the same batteries. It is a good platform to get into.
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Post by alvychippy on May 28, 2021 7:55:20 GMT -5
He meant using Mafell saw (Metabo - CAS) with Bosch battery, using adapter like www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274691527784100% agree with on rather getting a Bosch saw, be it with some issues with their bases, but not DeWalt, just not in the same league for refinement with Mafell or Bosch or FesTool or even Makita. |
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Post by alvychippy on May 28, 2021 8:37:40 GMT -5
OLD thread... sorry for bringing it back up. Mafell MT55 18M track saw and a Dewalt battery to Metabo adapter off ebay so I don't have to support another brand of batteries Scratch everything, I talked about, as if adapter would - it will NOT work! It's either Mafell of Metabo CAS batteries, because of the way adapter would "drop" the battery lower down |
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Post by michaels on May 29, 2021 16:18:21 GMT -5
Best of breed is nice, and that is the way I went when I bought my corded MT55, but some times I just need to get the job done. I trust that the Dewalt track saw is dissatisfying and not worth the messing with. If I can't get a Maffel saw that will run off of a Dewalt battery I am thinking I will just invest in an extension cord instead. (Thank you for the picture showing why an adapted battery won't work!!!) I have 10 Dewalt batteries of various capacities and well over a dozen Dewalt tools. A lot of them are 18v tools that I just use with an adapter and the new 20v batteries. When someone is selling a 18V 1/2" Dewalt impact wrench for $40 it is hard to pass up. If I only use it a few times a year spending $300 on a new tool doesn't make a lot of sense... but when I need it it is REALLY nice to have. My Ryobi caulking gun isn't a tool I use every day... but, man, I can't imagine trying to run a consistant bead of caulk or construction adhesive without it. The caulk gun was my fathers and is over 20 years old. When the second battery went out a $20 adapter made it useable with Dewalt batteries. I couldn't justify a $250+ Dewalt replacement and another $50 nicad Ryobi battery just didn't make sense. I appreciate the feedback! Cordless tools are really nice but sometimes AC tools get the job done just fine. P.S. I was cutting a bunch of doors down to clear carpeting for a friend yesterday which is why I thought I needed a cordless track saw. The 20' extension cord really wasn't that bad to deal with. |
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Post by aas on May 30, 2021 1:02:13 GMT -5
If that doesn't work I will just buy a Dewalt cordless track saw and tracks. Where does this image come from, is it yours? Obivously blade makes a difference too. The Bosch - is it the new cordless or the old 230v? |
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Post by alvychippy on May 30, 2021 1:11:43 GMT -5
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Post by aas on May 30, 2021 12:22:33 GMT -5
I'd not watched the video before today.
Surprise 1 - best saw is the most expensive - Mafell.
Surprise 2 - the cheapest saw is a 'train wreck' - DeWalt
You get what you pay for!
(it's put me off the Bosch though!)
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