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Post by GhostFist on May 15, 2014 15:19:04 GMT -5
Another joinery strength article in the latest issue of Furniture and Cabinetmaking. I'm beginning to think these types of articles are just fluff to pad a magazine but regardless, in their tests dowel joinery beat out comparative sized dominos in a break test. in fact it was the strongest joint of all tested. In order from strongest to weakest results went as follows. Dowel joint (using a dowel max) failed at 660psi, traditional mortise and tenon failed at 420psi, domino's at 400psi,a glued pocket hole joint failed at 280 psi, and both the lamello zeta p2 clamex and traditional biscuit joints failed at 180psi. This obviously doesn't state that one joint is better than the other and it only tested the joints in one direction and all joints were done in hardwood. The right joint for the right application is what you need there is no one way to join wood that will rule them all.
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Post by r cash on May 15, 2014 17:08:05 GMT -5
I also think if it is only one choice the 700 is by far the most versital in my experience . Have a great day rc
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Post by GhostFist on May 15, 2014 20:06:48 GMT -5
cheers cash
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Post by MrToolJunkie on May 17, 2014 11:38:12 GMT -5
I agree that having the range is good and since I use a ton of 4mm and 5mm I will be keeping my 500. But, I do really, really like the 700 and think it is an improvement over the 500 in every way. I still think the DD40 is cool and might find its way into my shop at some point...but there are some other cool Mafell's I would like to get first.
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Post by R cash on Dec 17, 2014 1:25:52 GMT -5
I got the 500 when I built the doors in my avatar over 10 years ago. It was a great help with that project. Could not live with out it. Then came the 700 when I had a 350lb door 48"/96"/2.25. Again I can't live without it great for furniture / doors/gates..... ... Dd40 has not seen as much action but it save me on a stairway balustrades with template sys well thought out as normal with mafell. Dd40 located the top and bottom of these balustrades Ciao Rx
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Post by jalvis on Dec 17, 2014 21:04:30 GMT -5
Nice Application! The idea of using only one bit gives new opportunity.
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Post by toomanytoys on Dec 18, 2014 7:52:08 GMT -5
After having just installed balusters thanks for showing the use of the DD40 in this application. It can see how it would have been easier then setting up the drill press.
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Post by Knight Woodworks on Dec 18, 2014 13:50:03 GMT -5
R cash - The doors in your avatar are awesome, any more pics?
if you don't mind my asking, how did you make the round rail; molder, shaper or...? The reason I ask is that I've done a few rails like that. I make the straight pieces on my W&H molder and the curved pieces on the shaper. The straight runs never come out smooth, I end up doing a lot of scraping and sanding. Any tips?
Anyone - How long does it take to drill the shelf pin holes in an 8' bookcase?
John
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Post by 7 on Dec 18, 2014 20:45:58 GMT -5
I admit it makes me sound like a rookie but I have never seen that type of bent grab rail R cash. I also like how the stairs are different than the white oak floor, wouldn't have thought of that. Is the dark wood walnut?
R cash & Knight- It's great to have two new very interesting forum members. It's obvious that you both bring a lot of experience. I do general construction but am fascinated with woodworking and hope to have the time to get more into it in the future. Tomorrow I am installing oak treads and risers and just finished installing a bunch of wood flooring but really don't get enough of the built in's, doors, & general furniture type of work. I'd like to get the domino 700 sometime...need to have the right project to justify the purchase though.
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Post by R cash on Dec 19, 2014 0:55:21 GMT -5
John My curved parts are cut out then shaped with template and bearing on the shaper with power feed. I will post photos of the stops with 3" copes that was the hardest part to do. I still have in my shop I still have the extra that was made in case parts blew up will post pics later.
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Post by Knight Woodworks on Dec 19, 2014 14:52:50 GMT -5
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I was first introduced to the round rail w/ round fittings in a Fine Homebuilding article BITD. I've made and installed a few of them.
i suspect you're better off doing general construction. About 20 years ago I decided to specialize in finish work. I enjoy the work but it hasn't been very lucrative for me. If you want to do more built-ins or what-have-you make sure your customers know you can do that sort of thing. Lacking that, do some for your family if you can make the time.
i got the 700 when Festool reduced the price earlier this year, I plan to make a few doors this winter.
John
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Post by 7 on Dec 19, 2014 23:28:49 GMT -5
Knight- I appreciate the reply. I have a hard time believing the whole grass is greener phenomenon is real. I enjoy what I do for sure but do find myself enjoying it the most when I am doing finish work & wood type jobs, even framing. I like those tasks a lot more than managing jobs or trades like tile which I do a decent amount of. I have a good friend that builds custom furniture and I always find the prices that he needs to sell at to be way too low. I think it makes it hard for people to see the value when they know nothing about the details that go into a custom piece compared to the junk for sale for way less.
I do have a bathroom that I remodeled in my own house recently that is waiting for a built in when I can squeeze the time. I have done a few for clients just far from my main gig. All things considered I am lucky to enjoy how I make a living.
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