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Post by Tom Gensmer on Nov 10, 2015 18:20:16 GMT -5
Alright, so I'll start off by saying I know there is already a systainer docking station for older Starmix vacs that can work on the newer ISP models, but I prefer the orientation as found on the Fes vacs, plus the Starmix dock is difficult to get in North America. Previously, I had modified a Festool Systainer Cart (removed the wheels, etc...) to use as a Systainer dock on my Metabo ASR 35 ACP vac. Overall it worked well, but it was rather large, and obscured the control panel. While perusing the Festool International website, I realized there are a number of "CT HD" vacs that do not come standard with a Systainer dock, but have a plate available as an accessory. So, I took a chance and imported a pair to try out. So far I'm quite happy! The plate is the "SYS-AP-CT 36 HD", Festool part # 768115, and costs roughly $50 US. If you live in North America, you will need to use someone in Europe to ship it to you. For attaching to the vac, I simply removed the plastic bracing members on the underside of the plates where they will touch the vac, and used a polyurethane construction adhesive to affix strips of 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood in their place. Then I simply took apart the vac, and drove screws up through the top of the vac, into the plywood strips (some double sided tape came in handy for positioning the plate). And here's the result! Nice, low profile, and with the orientation I prefer. I hope this helps spark some other ideas out there! Best, Tom
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Post by jonathan on Nov 11, 2015 17:25:58 GMT -5
Stil happy with the Metabo Tom?
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Post by Tom Gensmer on Nov 11, 2015 21:25:34 GMT -5
Stil happy with the Metabo Tom? Hi Jonathan! Yes, thus far I've been VERY happy with my Metabo vac. I use it almost every day, collecting everything from saw dust, general clean up, sheetrock, plaster, concrete, and stucco dust, even the occasional wet clean up. I still think the Festool parking brake works better than the locking casters on the Starmix vacs, but beyond that the Starmix/Metabo/Mafell/Rokamat vac is the best match for my needs that I've encountered.
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Post by jimbouk on Nov 13, 2015 17:44:24 GMT -5
Hi guys. Just a quick one for the resident vac experts! Is the metabo asr 25 the same vac just with less size collection chamber? Just seen a good deal on one. Also looks like you have a black bag as a receptical there...is it a standard waste sack or a special item. Cheers?
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Post by Tom Gensmer on Nov 13, 2015 20:57:23 GMT -5
Hi guys. Just a quick one for the resident vac experts! Is the metabo asr 25 the same vac just with less size collection chamber? Just seen a good deal on one. Also looks like you have a black bag as a receptical there...is it a standard waste sack or a special item. Cheers? Hi Jim! I'd hardly consider myself an expert, but perhaps a vacuum enthusiast?? I believe the ASR 25 is from the previous generation of Starmix vacuums. Certainly nothing wrong with it, and a great find if you found a great price on it! For reference, here are the equivalent Mafell versions: katalog.mafell.de/index.php?IdTreeGroup=12948#V:29763,8544/S:12957/ Regarding bags, generally the Starmix/Mafell/Metabo etc... vacs can use either paper, fleece, or plastic bags. Not sure what the paper bags are best for, I tried them but they kept blowing up inside the vac. The Fleece bags are great and keep your filters nice and clean, but you lose the filter pulsing functionality when processing cementitious (concrete, stucco, plaster, drywall, etc...) dust. The open top plastic bags are best for processing cementitious dust. I've found I generally default to using the open-top plastic bags, simply because I regularly find myself cutting, grinding or sanding cementitious materials. If you are mostly processing wood dust/chips, the Fleece bags will be a cleaner option.
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Post by jimbouk on Nov 14, 2015 3:03:46 GMT -5
Thanks Tom. That would explain why it's cheeper! I will investigate the other metabo vacs and see if there are any other deals..
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