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Post by charley1968 on Oct 24, 2015 10:21:09 GMT -5
Hi folx I have the chance to get the Mafell A 10 quite cheaply. Not as cheap as the Metabo Powermaxx, but pricewise somewhere in the vicinity. Now i wonder: is there any advantage of the Mafell over the Metabo that justifies a highetr price or are thesevirtually the same screwdrivers? Another question: i have small, pudgy hands, size 9 in circumference with size 8 fingers. How big 's the grip on the Mafell/ Metabo? Any experience? Thanx: A.
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Post by dunk1976 on Oct 24, 2015 11:20:18 GMT -5
Size wise I find it okay and I have size 7 hands
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Post by sjur on Oct 24, 2015 12:12:55 GMT -5
For reference - I've got metabo 18LTX and I tried the Metabo powermaxx, but I already had the festool TXS and I liked it much better. I've never tried the Mafell version, but having all that said:
The Mafell has a place to hold bits - the metabo doesn't. The Mafell comes with a much superior case, unless you're able to buy Powermaxx with the new Metabo case.. Don't quote me on it - but I believe the mafell belt holder is superior. The Mafell looks cooler, and I believe the grip is more streamlined and comfortable on the Mafell than the metabo.
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Post by henrun on Oct 25, 2015 15:20:14 GMT -5
Make sure you try out the grip on the A10 before you buy. I find the Powermaxx grip quite awkward and actually one of the worst grips on the market. My colleague (who owns a couple of them) actually agree after having tried a few others.
There are so many great grips in that drill segment (Makita, Hitachi, Festool CXS, etc) that it is surprising how awkward and uncomfortable the grip is. Bosch new 10,8 series also have new grips - unfortunately bulkier.
I also think the PowerMaxx is a bit large for being a "small drill". There are equal size and weight drills that are better performers as well as more ergonomic.
Fein is releasing a new 12V range which seems to be the same size but with better ergonomics, they are just hitting the shelves. Prices seem fair. Might be worth checking out.
The Mafell versions look cool though!
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Post by jonathan on Oct 26, 2015 4:11:32 GMT -5
Charley1968, I'm in the same boat a you. I too have small hands. I wanted to invest in the Metabo range and needed a small lightweight drill-driver but I find the grips on the 10v range ridiculously thick and uncomfortable. In any case, Metabo also offers that same drill but with the 18v battery platform. The SB 18 Quick, and this one has a more normal grip. The drill is sold in a nice package for abou €210 in the Netherlands. Comes with 1x 4Ah, 1x 2Ah battery & battery charger in Metabo systainer. It's not the most refined drill in the world, its not brushless and it does have a little runout. But it is very compact & lightweight.
This one might be a good option for you?
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Post by holmz on Oct 26, 2015 6:43:13 GMT -5
I could measure my A10M, but it seems perfect until I read that the grip is big. Then I thought, "Maybe it is". But I used it yesterday and did not notice it being anything other than perfect. (But I do have large paws)
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Post by charley1968 on Oct 26, 2015 7:24:47 GMT -5
Thanks for your input, everyone! Holmz, could you be so kind as to measure the circumference of the grip at the widest point? No, not the battery, mate.. Jonathan: thank you for the tip, but i 'm in the market for a small driver. I got a makita for the large dimension screws. I'm looking for something in between the CSX and a 18V rig. Thanx,folx
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Post by jonathan on Oct 26, 2015 7:57:48 GMT -5
It really is pretty compact. It's the same as the A10/Powermaxx but with an 18v battery instead of 10v.
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Post by jm on Oct 26, 2015 15:05:58 GMT -5
Any 10.8/12v cordless system that has the battery in the grips has this same limitation. That applies to Metabo, Bosch, Makita, Milwaukee, etc.
Milwaukee manages the compromise well, by really slimming it down between where your thumb and forefinger would lie. I haven't held a Makita 12v, Bosch is not great.
That said, I have Bosch 12v tools though because they're excellent otherwise. I find if I operate the trigger with my middle finger and stabilize it w/ my pointer finger, it's very manageable, and even more controllable than the normal grip. Try that out on the Metabo/Mafell and see how it goes, I bet you'll find the same benefits.
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Post by charley1968 on Oct 26, 2015 15:45:44 GMT -5
@ Jonathan: the 18v version is supposed to weight 1,3 kg with battery. Could you be so kind as to weight your drill, Jonathan? @ JM: i think that's the way i do it , gotta check next time i'min the flow..
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Post by holmz on Oct 26, 2015 15:59:07 GMT -5
My hand measures 210 mm from the crease at the palm/wrist to the tip of the bird finger. The palm length is 120-mm. When gripping the drill there is 50-mm remaining around the ring finger to the palm.
I cannot finding the Mrs flexible sewing tape, but it is pretty close to 170 mm around the drill at the fat point. which is under the ring finger.
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Post by charley1968 on Oct 26, 2015 16:16:36 GMT -5
Thankee, holmz! Care to elaborate what the bird-finger is? Checkin' my Makita for a comparison.. Ok, got some idea.. Ta, holmz!
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Post by holmz on Oct 27, 2015 4:59:47 GMT -5
The middle finger as the USA language (similar to English) refers to giving someone the middle find "Salute" as giving them "the bird". --- The Mrs uses the A10m for Ikea flat pack with a Torx and says it is fine, and she is ~168 cm... so she is not a basketball or netball player.
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