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Post by holmz on Oct 4, 2016 3:13:24 GMT -5
I'm finally starting to use more and more my MT55, I have a basic set up with a standard shop vac w/ a remote on/off plug and a used 35mm hose x 12' that my neighbor gave me. My questions is, Do I need to get a dust extraction system with an Anti Static Hose? I've been reading online the possible tool failure that a discharge can cause, especially during sanding. Do I need to worry about that with my Baby (MT55CC)? Any and all information with regards will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. I dunno the answer, but I would probably get an anti static hose. If someone brings their tool over and it blows up then they could try and hold you liable, plus I do not like my hose shooting sparks and lightening bolts. "F'tools suck" was a bit of stretch of the topic, but we were talking vacuum hoses so I suppose it is still germane. But if I may stretch it some more, then there is an interesting Eleanor Friedberger version of the following song from the Sydney Opera house, but here is the original... As the topic is focussed on sparks, I present:
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Post by reflector on Oct 5, 2016 2:31:59 GMT -5
I'm finally starting to use more and more my MT55, I have a basic set up with a standard shop vac w/ a remote on/off plug and a used 35mm hose x 12' that my neighbor gave me. My questions is, Do I need to get a dust extraction system with an Anti Static Hose? I've been reading online the possible tool failure that a discharge can cause, especially during sanding. Do I need to worry about that with my Baby (MT55CC)? Any and all information with regards will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. By the way, the setup I use with my MT55cc is this: A Shop-Vac 5872510 - A Cleanstream filter - With some Numatic HEPAFlo bags modified to fit - Fastcap remote power dodad (Switch the vacuum to on, click the remote to toggle power at the wall) - A 2.5" hose Which goes into a CleanVue CV06 mini cyclone, which then I have some weatherstripping around the inlet so it'll seal against the 1.5" hose that came with the vacuum (Since the inlet is a little larger than the end that would normally go into the vacuum so it leaks a little air). I have a Bosch VAC024 adapter stuck on it (Which is effectively the same hose end you see on the Bosch hoses and effectively similar to the ends of the Festool and Starmix vacuums). Nothing has happened to my MT55cc and P1cc so far and I doubt anything will happen to them from being run this way in the foreseeable future. The only thing that sucks about this setup is it isn't automatic (But I plug the tool into a 20a outlet on a different circuit than the 15a circuit the vacuum is on) and the 1.5" Shopvac hose is kind of wimpy (Don't step on it and it is pretty short so I end up running it over my shoulder. Speaking of that, I need to make some kind of saran wrap/velcro implement with another powercord so I don't have to get annoyed with picking the powercord up every time). The antistatic Bosch hoses is effectively the same as the blue and black pool hose stuff you can get online. I found this out when I ordered two sets of Bosch hoses and compared the material that the hose is made out of versus a 1-1/4" pool hose. Same material. So if you ever wanted to make your own hoses, you just have to purchase the ends and stick them on. Right now I am sticking with the 2.5" hose that goes to my vacuum since it minimizes friction losses but it is too long (10') and I plan on replacing it sometime later with a short run setup and to integrate the cycle. In the long term I'd like to probably replace the Shopvac with a nice Bosch or Starmix vacuum but the MT55cc's dust collection takes care of most of it. The only thing I am really missing a lot on the Shopvac I have is the static pressure (Significantly lower than a domestic vacuum, which the Bosch(Karcher)/Starmix/Festool are actually comparable to as far as I can tell) and a little bit of airflow (Again, the Bosch/Starmix/Festool vacuums are a bit ahead. (Good) Domestic vacuums typically don't fare well here since their motors are designed more for static pressure). I am pretty sure I am not kosher or halal in another place with my setup. Something about my wrongvoltage (110V), wrongnationalelectricalsystem ("It isn't 220V 50Hz in specific European flavors! Screw your 60Hz for induction motors and your polyphase high frequency motors for your six figure industrial machinery and aerospace, they're WRONG with their electrical magic pixies!") and crazy vacuum setup ("Its not a system and it isn't all green!" "Your hose isn't anti static and IT ISN'T GREEN!" "You can't stick a cyclone infront of a vacuum or it'll fry the electronics in it! It has to be SPECIFIC BRAND AND MODEL that's SYSTEM INTEGRATED WITH THESE VACUUMS") would probably cause another topic of "my vacuum/saw fried" over there. Seems like the MT55cc doesn't have these problems, nor does the P1cc, nor does my Bosch tablesaw (Which has a soft start and constant speed electronics...) nor my Bosch sanders (They don't complain with beeps if I have the filter boxes or don't have a hose on them). I'm not saying that a certain color of tools suck. I just think some of the tools doesn't live up to the extreme hype when you have some others in the picture to compare them to. I'm saying that there's a place with some really toxic attitudes that handle anything but a very well defined world where everything is part of a certain colored tool system and only can exist in that orderly manner in which it belongs. Anything else would be a disruption to the Ordnung there. Oh my, I might of shown that I know more than I should about a certain place even if I don't own any of those tools of a certain color. Perhaps I gained that knowledge in my pursuit of knowledge in finding appropriate tools for the task at hand. Possibly the end of certain rants/etc...
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Post by holmz on Apr 23, 2017 8:22:14 GMT -5
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