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Post by differentshades on Jun 3, 2014 8:45:34 GMT -5
you have a point. regarding the bevel cut, have a look at the following about 6:18 in:
the mafell one is advertised to the same thing, that's what really sold me on the mafell and might be why I'll go for the Bosch.
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Post by GhostFist on Jun 3, 2014 9:15:41 GMT -5
Wonder what the cost of the bosch blades are. A cheap alternative would be nice for some beater blades.
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Post by mattdh on Jun 3, 2014 9:16:28 GMT -5
watch at 6:26. its a close up of the pivot. that looks pretty darn close to the same point to me (looks way different than the shots of the pivot right before that- about 6:20)
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Jun 3, 2014 10:19:34 GMT -5
Good thread...very informative.
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Post by christoph on Jun 3, 2014 14:46:20 GMT -5
you have a point. regarding the bevel cut, have a look at the following about 6:18 in: the mafell one is advertised to the same thing, that's what really sold me on the mafell and might be why I'll go for the Bosch. Ok but every plunge saw (Mafell, Bosch, Festool, Makita) have this function of pivoting around the correct lower edge of the splinter guard if you so bevel-cuts. Your MT55 wasn't good in that and you send it back, good! But thats nothing what separates one of the good plunge saws from another ;-)
My point was the easy Mafell system of clamping the saw with one knob if you have adjusted the angle. The Bosch has two screws for that as well as the Festool (but the festool system doesn't work correct in many situations as you may read in the FOG-Forum).
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Post by differentshades on Jun 3, 2014 16:26:54 GMT -5
I think that is defo a plus and probably a time saver, it's just that I don't mind to much that bit extra time. I'd much rather be able to cut on the line than be approximate . You know measure twice ( at least 3 times in my case!) cut once.
By the way, I think I might stick with mafell though... I used the scoring function today... WOW! the sheet I was cutting kept chipping, but when I scored it first, it was clean and crisp.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Jun 3, 2014 16:46:32 GMT -5
There is always a learning curve with every tool. The scoring function does give some crisp cuts
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Post by 7 on Jun 3, 2014 23:15:32 GMT -5
Just watched the video at the 6:20 point where they bevel the saw. Is there anywhere that you can demo the Bosch? The visual looks like it is very close to the splinter strip but I am guessing it would have the same very slight offset if actually cutting. Who knows- if you get the Bosch I am sure all of use would like to hear your feedback on the bevel issue as well as other general features.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Jun 3, 2014 23:23:03 GMT -5
It looks like it is touching or very, very close as you state, 7. Has anyone had any issues with the Mafell and bevel cuts? I could see this being really much easier of a process with the Aerofix. I was cutting some bevels this weekend with my Festool and the piece under the guide rail kept wanting to creep. And, there is no easy way on the Festool to clamp narrower work pieces like you can with the Mafell.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Jun 4, 2014 16:45:19 GMT -5
Hear is a vid I did tonight using the F rail showing it cutting to the marks . I put a new splinter guard in and trimmed to size. It obviously isn't the mt55. On the kss saws and ksp saws their is no adjustment for slop on the rail. As you wil hopefully be able to see that on both cuts I made where on the line at both 90 and 45
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Post by differentshades on Jun 4, 2014 17:49:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the upload, nice vid. That's, in my opinion, how it should work. I'm going to phone around a couple of places to see if I can demo a Bosch. Got my replacement saw today, but have not tested out as yet. To be honest though, I'll probably keep the Mafell. Any you guys seen the following vid, it's a comparison of 5 plunge saws:
It's in Dutch, but you can turn the captions to translate to English
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Post by GhostFist on Jun 4, 2014 18:08:30 GMT -5
Keep in mind the bosch is modeled off the mt55 design so as far as its pivot function it should be identical. When you get used to the mt55 I don't think you'll regret spending more for its added features.
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Post by differentshades on Jun 4, 2014 18:22:23 GMT -5
Your probably right, it's why I went for the Mafell in the first place, was just a bit upset about the whole bevel issue and blade alignment. I really want to buy a KSS300 though, was offered an ex demo for about £450 with flexi-track, hence the slight indecision about the MT55 as well as above issues. Can't justfy 450 at present though, need to get a good cheap small portable dust extractor first.
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Post by GhostFist on Jun 4, 2014 20:49:01 GMT -5
I have the 300 and it's damn handy
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Post by 7 on Jun 4, 2014 22:24:11 GMT -5
I have seen the video but was too dumb to know I could change the captions to read in english. I'll watch it again now. Thanks.
I also like the KSS300. Just installed an engineered refinished wood floor with it last week. Can't be beat for that job.
I think the guys in the video might be Mafell dealers but I could be wrong. I think they are the ones that caused an uproar on FOG with their P1CC vs Carvex 420 comparison. Can anyone confirm or deny this??
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