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Post by otto on May 19, 2021 2:56:45 GMT -5
Hello everyone,
My gear is slowly on the way out, and I need to get new drills and a few other things.
I was considering the LTX 3 drill or the hammer drill version. It seems to me to be the best drill on the market.
Does anyone find the hammer drill version cumbersome, is it better to avoid the hammer?
Also, getting into the Metabo platform, other than their angle grinders do they make anything worthwhile? I have found yetihunter's posts insightful and as a redflag for the Metabo brand. Also, the Metabo impact driver seems like junk, and I can't imagine a need for the impact wrench, which I also assume is Chinese made.
I'd consider the Festool PDC, but I really do hate the centrotec money grab.
Any experience and insight would be very helpful, since this will be a decent investment.
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Post by richie on May 19, 2021 5:29:07 GMT -5
As a carpenter in a workshop all the time I decided against the hammer version. Carrying the extra weight and bulk around every day just for the 2 or 3 times a year I might need to drill into walls didn't seem worth it..plus half the time they're not powerful enough and need a proper sds. Other times you can just drill into soft stuff anyway... Of course depends what you're doing.. I got the small batteries for the same weight saving and as the Centrotec chuck fits on the metabo and I found having the quick change 3 and 4mm drill bits with respective countersinks slipped over so convenient it pretty much eliminated the need to carry 2 drills around..and when the bits inevitably break they can just be changed..had them for years, so I consider a decent investment. Bought a couple more for use without the countersinks. As for the battery platform.. I have the older model multitool, seems alright..use it mainly to get out of scrapes.. if I was using it everyday I'd get the Fein and look at their drills. But of course with the Metabo you will now have access to Mafells cordless saws, i have kss40 and think it's superb.. As far as Metabo/Mafell and the cordless allience battery platform goes I think it's a pretty good option and is only going to get larger as things move in that direction, even if they are made in china..
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Post by aas on May 20, 2021 0:03:04 GMT -5
Hello everyone, My gear is slowly on the way out, and I need to get new drills and a few other things. I was considering the LTX 3 drill or the hammer drill version. It seems to me to be the best drill on the market. Does anyone find the hammer drill version cumbersome, is it better to avoid the hammer? Also, getting into the Metabo platform, other than their angle grinders do they make anything worthwhile? I have found yetihunter's posts insightful and as a redflag for the Metabo brand. Also, the Metabo impact driver seems like junk, and I can't imagine a need for the impact wrench, which I also assume is Chinese made. I'd consider the Festool PDC, but I really do hate the centrotec money grab. Any experience and insight would be very helpful, since this will be a decent investment. Metabo cordless gear varies in quality - but it varies in price too. If you don't need heavy or professional use, their tools will do for a relatively low outlay.
Good 18v tools : drills - almost all of them - I have 3 at the moment and 2x Mafell (plus a new style 12v). I have a black edition hammer version very smooth and not too heavy. LT version so not too many bells and whistles. The 12v is hammer too. I don't have a 3 speed.
impact driver - the SSD200 is brilliant;
impact wrench - I have the SSD400, a lot of power and light grinders - if I hadn't switched the multitool to Fein, I would have kept the Metabo grinder
OK tools : bandsaw - I don't have much to compare it to, it looks like a lot of these are made in the same factory (DeWalt etc) mitre saw - needed to be adjust to be accurate, but light mini sabre saw - I really liked this, but it was the old 10,8v and the batteries kept falling out, probably worth a try with the new 12v batts or if they do in 18v old version multitool - it was a good solid tool - sticky switch
Poor tools : circular saw - KS18LTX57 - but then if you're buying into this platform, get Mafell
Probably others I've had and sold - I've written a fair bit about Metabo disappoitments here. Current position is if someone else makes the same tool (they usually do) then I'll buy it instead of the Metabo. In light of that comment, it sounds like I wouldn't recommend Metabo - but I'm pretty fussy and prefer to buy the best if I can - Metabo is rarely the best. Drills are up there with the best though.
I agree on centrotec - money grab, but nice bits though. The Fein drills are nice - can switch between 12v and 18v for light or powerful.
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Post by otto on May 21, 2021 7:13:23 GMT -5
Looks like a wealth of knowledge; I very much appreciate you both taking the time to share your expertise.
aas, since you mentioned buying from other manufacturers instead of Metabo--are you mostly buying from Mafell? Who else?
The Mafell circular saw is great but hard to get in Canada
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Post by hecon5 on May 21, 2021 14:36:01 GMT -5
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Post by aas on May 21, 2021 15:17:19 GMT -5
Looks like a wealth of knowledge; I very much appreciate you both taking the time to share your expertise. aas, since you mentioned buying from other manufacturers instead of Metabo--are you mostly buying from Mafell? Who else? The Mafell circular saw is great but hard to get in Canada When I said 'others' I've bought and sold, I think I was talking about other Metabo tools I've got rid of along the way. Got my first Metabo in 2015 - most of it was sold by 2019. The stuff I've kept are drills (impacts etc.), grinders (230v) and a few lesser used tools like the 18v bandsaw.
Otherwise I have tools from most of the better known manufacturers - Mafell, Festool, Fein, Mirka, Bosch, DeWalt, Makita, Hitachi, Metabo, etc - can't remember them all!
Depends what saw you're looking for and the intended use - I like Mafell but for example they don't do a big plunge saw so have the Festool for that.
The big advantage of Metabo is the CAS - and I have a few tools from other manufacturers - I could add a few more too, but they are not easy to get hold of in France; buying from Germany is usually what I do - it's just frustrating that the Metabo has the great CAS batteries, but their own tools are seldom up to the quality of their CAS partners...
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