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Post by yetihunter on Jul 8, 2020 4:09:36 GMT -5
The great quality over the years of Fein's multitools has always had me wondering about the rest of their lineup. And you hear nothing but raves for the latest cordless. Not sure if it's been discussed elsewhere but I was wondering, other than run time, if there is any noticeable performance difference between the 2.5 v 5 Ah when using SuperCut ? How about balance preference? A lot of that cordless lineup is bolstered by asian manufacturing partners. Mileage may vary. I had the cordless 4-speed drill a few years ago (Made by Fein). It was somewhat more powerful than but not as nice as the Festool PDC. It certainly was not doo doo. All I’ve had limited access to in the states, otherwise (other than the ubiquitous MM), has been their corded fair and it was all built better than and performed more reliable than the competition. In general, Mafell has managed to become bedfellows with Metabo around these parts all thanks to the batteries, but it’s Fein that is Mafell’s equal (coincidentally) in everything that Metabo “excels” at (metal work). I bought the Vecturo version, so it’s not quite the same on the battery end (balance and whatnot), but operating with the standard size 6ah battery definitely has more mojo than the slim pack (3.1ah). I haven’t tried it out with the new 21700 packs that came with my unimpressive Festool impact driver (how does the Festool have infinitely more runout than the Makita) but I’m not really going to bother trying it out because I much prefer the balance with the larger battery and it runs smoother with less vibration due to more counter-mass.
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Post by aas on Jul 8, 2020 6:19:32 GMT -5
The Fein tools are fantastic, I'd like to add a few to the fold, but it can wait for now, other things ahead on the 'to buy' list.
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Post by kozn on Jul 20, 2020 5:58:49 GMT -5
I'm very happy with my brushed metabo grinder made in Germany. It eats through the batteries tough. Don't know about the brushless version, are they made in Germany or China? For metal work I'm not convinced for going brushles. Fine metal particles /dust + strong permanent magnets just don't seem right to me. Idk bout the encapsulated motor of the metabo grinders but somehow they need to be air cooled one way or another.
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Post by Knight Woodworks on Jul 20, 2020 7:11:26 GMT -5
I recently got a cordless brushless Metabo grinder, single speed made in China.
John
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Post by yetihunter on Jul 20, 2020 16:44:36 GMT -5
They moved to the Chinese plant for their brushless angle grinders. My 150/115 model made it through about 30 cuts over the course of six months before it inexplicably died on me. Warranty in the states is pay first and then cross your fingers. It went into the same dumpster some of my other cordless Metabo stuff went to. I have a cordless Fein with Festool written on it coming my way. I had store credit because the TID-18 I had preorded was the worst impact driver I have ever used.
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Post by aas on Jul 21, 2020 16:40:52 GMT -5
I steer clear of the Festool cordless, big bulky batteries, not enough of a decent range of tools... the Fein can run on the baby 12v 3,0ah's too, if you need super light with more control.
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Post by lincoln on Jul 21, 2020 16:53:49 GMT -5
I've recently added the 18v grinder, multi-tool, drill/driver and impact driver. All are fantastic performers. The impact driver is fairly slow, compared to others, but has a lot of power - maybe to do with their emphasis on tools for metal working?? The drill/driver is one of the best I've ever used, balance and weight are perfect. Only have the 18v batteries at the moment, might add a couple of 12v later on (all the tools are 'multivolt')
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Post by aas on Jul 22, 2020 1:21:51 GMT -5
Which drill driver do you have?.. I keep looking at them!
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Post by lincoln on Jul 22, 2020 3:58:58 GMT -5
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Post by aas on Jul 23, 2020 12:30:17 GMT -5
Interesting that you say the balance is good, it looks back heavy... but then it does have a decent metal chuck.
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Post by kozn on Jul 23, 2020 14:37:22 GMT -5
If it's the fein drill he linked to, it does seem to have a metal chuck.
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Post by aas on Jul 23, 2020 19:40:22 GMT -5
I think all Fein drills have metal chucks.
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Post by lincoln on Jul 24, 2020 2:25:24 GMT -5
Even with a holesaw chucked, the drill stands upright with no danger of falling forward.
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Post by kozn on Jul 24, 2020 6:34:17 GMT -5
I think all Fein drills have metal chucks. I must have mis read your post. I thought I saw 'doesn't' instead of does. I'm wandering how it can work on both 18v and 12v. How can it maintain it's speed and force on 12v? I also don't really see the point of running an 18v drill on 12v. I use my 12v drill for lighter work in confined spaces. It's also a lot easier to work with compared to my bulky 18 Volter. Don't think I would gain much with putting an 12v battery on it. I also like the plastic chuck on the 12v as I'm less likely to scare my work pieces when I put my drill on it. Guess I just don't see the point of multi volt tools. I do see the point of multivolt batteries. But more for use in 18v and 36v tools.
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Post by kraftt on Jul 24, 2020 7:57:13 GMT -5
The way I look at it is it helps users transition to both newer & potentially more powerful tools without the cost of having to upgrade to higher volt batteries also. And if someone already has the higher volt batt(s) it still gives peace of mind that your legacy batteries are there for back up. The lower volt batteries work well enough though their Ah ratings drop when used in the higher volt multivolt tool. I.e. an 18v 5Ah drops to 2.5Ah (depending) when used in a 36v tool.
It’s inexpensive for the mfg. to implement since it’s all done on a chip and it helps both their sales and end user. They all could have chosen not to make the higher volt tools backwards compatible, to force newer battery purchases, so it’s an instance where their marketing strategy aligns with our interests too.
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