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Post by kraftt on Dec 5, 2017 20:35:13 GMT -5
I keep coming right up to clicking 'buy' on a P1 but don't because the case really bothers me. It's a pie box. Who wants to carry their tools around like a pie? Anyways I did a quick, crude colorization of a Bosch L-boxx, this is what I want - a briefcase handle. Let's go Mafell, chop chop! ( i don't care if it's not cordless ).
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Post by lincoln on Dec 6, 2017 0:49:42 GMT -5
You can get a handle for it, slots into the two label recesses.
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Post by lincoln on Dec 6, 2017 4:29:21 GMT -5
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Post by kraftt on Dec 6, 2017 12:40:29 GMT -5
Thanks lincoln - I don’t know squat about systainers. Closest I ever came to owning one, before mafell, are my Fein multimaster cases (which I actually like). After going to the Tanos web-site I’m up to speed now. So they’re the ones responsible for spreading the whole ABS LEGO box blight on humanity. I didn’t see Bosch as one of their ‘partners’ so I guess I won’t be seeing my preferred L-boxx style for mafell anytime soon.
I’ve never found this perfect world where you wheel all these boxes on to the job site in one trip. When I do any kind of repetitive production work I like to keep heavy duty cardboard sheet & boxes on hand to make custom storage systems with a hot glue gun and a box knife. They’re usually built around a light hand truck, hold up very well and are tailored to the specific job. Simple to mod on site or add to.
However I was looking for a way to cram even more stuff into my MT55 box and Tanos’s other exterior accessories, that also clip into label id slots, are great to find & might work.
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Post by huntsgemein on Dec 6, 2017 14:52:07 GMT -5
Those front handles won't cope with heavy weights as well as the upper handle with its more substantial hinge mounts. Already had an embarrassing "disaster" with a front handle breakage on a heavily laden Tanos multi-compartment screwbox. Screws, anchors, dynabolts, Hilti & Fisher plugs, once compulsively filed, segregated & compartmentalised cascading down a stairwell! Ended up having to vacuum away much of the consequent mess, as it would've taken between several hours to a day's work to pick up, sort & recompartmentalise the resultant mess.
I've also broken an L-Boxx front handle too. Seems to be a common weakness in their insubstantial hinge mounts. All my top handles, by contrast, seem much more robust & reliable. Not that you're necessarily going to have similar problems or anything: unless you, like me, tend to overload your boxes with heavy extras & accessories. This is where the Tanos/Systainer/T-Max/Metaloc boxes are in some ways better. Being smaller, there's less temptation to cram in too many extras, whereas the Sortainer L-Boxxes, being larger will fit more; bigger & heavier tools plus all those necessary & useful extras that one tends to accumulate.
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Post by holmz on Dec 6, 2017 15:21:11 GMT -5
... It's a pie box. Who wants to carry their tools around like a pie? ... I like pie
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Post by aas on Dec 6, 2017 15:43:11 GMT -5
Who wants to carry their tools around like a pie? It's so rare I'm only carrying one, I can cope with pie mode! Mafell do use L-Boxx's for some of the too-big-to-fit-in-a-Systainer tools. I guess you could always swap out the Mafell lids for a plain smaller size Sortimo box if you were really bothered.
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Post by kraftt on Dec 6, 2017 15:53:42 GMT -5
... Screws, anchors, dynabolts,...cascading down a stairwell! I've always been skeptical when looking at images of systainers filled full of fasteners, but was trying to keep an open mind. Thanks for the reality check.
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Post by GhostFist on Dec 6, 2017 15:58:09 GMT -5
pie is my favorite food form. speaking of pie in a negative light will result in immediate banning!
PIE>YOU
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Post by kraftt on Dec 6, 2017 16:42:14 GMT -5
Who wants to carry their tools around like a pie? .... you could always swap out the Mafell lids for a plain smaller size Sortimo box if you were really bothered. Well that's embarrassing, I didn’t know about Sortimo either - what a hillbilly. Here’s a sample of the hodge-podge of misfits I use to give you an idea - lol. thanks for the little education guys. ( I apologize if I offended pie. I've never discriminated against pie, in fact some of my favorite desserts are pies. I was simply upset that you open the box and discover there's no pie.)
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Post by huntsgemein on Dec 6, 2017 18:22:01 GMT -5
There's nothing whatsoever wrong with a mongrel mix of tool containers. In fact, it's a positive virtue. Bet you've never, ever got to a distant, remote worksite & realised that you've inadvertently picked/packed the wrong tool/container. Having done it myself when I was "on the tools" way too often I try (often less than successfully) to keep everything extremely well organised & labelled. But with such radically contrasting containers, the opportunity for this type of situation simply doesn't usually arise. Any critical tools left behind are instead merely down to one's own idiocy!
The key characteristic advantage with Systainers & Sortimos is that they clip to each other (Sys to Sys, Sort to Sort only) incestuously. Doing so will reveal that these top handles simply make sense. They can be stacked, wheeled, lifted, carried en masse. Some tradies even think that these stacks of ordered, colour-matched, neatly arranged tool boxes somehow makes them appear (& possibly feel) more "professional". In fact, there's I suspect a whole generation of OCD sufferers out there who positively adore these things.
Me, I'm not necessarily so enamoured: the jury's still out as far as I'm concerned. As previously mentioned, Sortimos are more usefully big, but with that extra space comes the temptation to overfill. Doing so, the lid can distort, preventing the clips from automatically & securely engaging. Grab the resultant stack & lift & snap! You tear off the top clip lugs. Having a workshop or van filled with serried ranks of matching tool containers simply is not in any way an indication of one's skills, capabilities or craftsmanship. It does indicate, however, that you are a bit of a neat-freak; Not necessarily in a good way.
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Post by kraftt on Dec 6, 2017 19:30:55 GMT -5
It’s a real code to crack. Just being ‘organized’ can be counter productive if you have to put too much effort into staying organized or if it becomes about maintaining appearances. There’s a certain amount of entropy you need to let in to find a well worn balance between what you want, what you really need and what works. Especially when it’s a moving target.
I sometimes see red flags too when watching videos and the garage/shop looks like a Festool museum / catalog. It’s really cool but also suspect.
(mmm….pie)
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Post by huntsgemein on Dec 6, 2017 20:44:06 GMT -5
It's pretty easy for me.... I'm just messy as buggery! (Dis)orderly chaos!
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Post by matchesder on Dec 17, 2017 5:27:01 GMT -5
I keep coming right up to clicking 'buy' on a P1 but don't because the case really bothers me. It's a pie box. Who wants to carry their tools around like a pie? Anyways I did a quick, crude colorization of a Bosch L-boxx, this is what I want - a briefcase handle. Let's go Mafell, chop chop! ( i don't care if it's not cordless ). View AttachmentVery cool! You could by the Metabo Version. www.metabo.com/us/enus/accessories/other-accessories/case-systems/metaloc/They are compatible with Tanos (produced by metabo under license but with slight modification) Sadly the smalles seems to be size 2 Regards Martin
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Post by yetihunter on Jan 1, 2018 21:19:48 GMT -5
The only issue with fasteners in a systainer is that wussies like myself use systainers and I cry when I lift mine up. The front hand works fine. I've murdered a lot of drywall with those things. They're fine.
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