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Bits
Aug 13, 2017 4:45:18 GMT -5
Post by holmz on Aug 13, 2017 4:45:18 GMT -5
Been using Phillips head jobs, and going to town on 45x70-mm treated pine, with some decent sized screws. this has been on and off over the last few weekends. the lil A10M has been doing fine, but once I get the Phillips to bounce one and growl, the the bit is "stuffed". i have been pushing just about hard enough to not need rotation, and it still cams out. wtF is one to do?
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Bits
Aug 13, 2017 5:38:59 GMT -5
Post by huntsgemein on Aug 13, 2017 5:38:59 GMT -5
Better quality bits?
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Bits
Aug 13, 2017 5:56:31 GMT -5
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Post by jozsefkozma on Aug 13, 2017 5:56:31 GMT -5
I have better luck with square heads
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Bits
Aug 13, 2017 7:36:35 GMT -5
Post by holmz on Aug 13, 2017 7:36:35 GMT -5
Some square heads at Round, but I needed zinc.
No idea one what is quality, but I doubt I got them currently.
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Bits
Aug 13, 2017 14:07:21 GMT -5
Post by aas on Aug 13, 2017 14:07:21 GMT -5
Diamond coated bits - they grip better in the screw head. Failing that, try a bigger drill - the A10M may 'turn' the screw, but I've often found with bigger screws that I get less camming out with a heavier and torquier drill.
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Aug 14, 2017 6:52:12 GMT -5
Post by huntsgemein on Aug 14, 2017 6:52:12 GMT -5
Maybe a change of machine might work? You already have the 10.8v drill, so what about the matching (Metabo) rattler? I've found this little tool to be a bit of a peach for driving screws without damaging either bit, screw or the often expensive electrical fitting that I used to mount.
It's no Makita granted, but what it (at a mere 10.8v) lacks in overall oomph it more than makes up in finesse. I moved down from a Bosch impact which, being more of a construction tool had way too much driving torque. Given you already have the appropriate batteries & charger @ your disposal, as a naked tool it will be a mere fraction of any other sort of alternative, yet the 3 year warranty will apply.
Some years ago in a fit of sheer unmitigated madness I bought a joblot of B&D Piranha Ph2 bits. Some 100+ packs of 2! These were extremely good quality German made bits from one of the better-known specialist bit mnf'rs. Wera? Wiha? They have sort of micro serrations in the faces of the crucifix, which helps prevent cam-out. When I was on the tools one bit would last me for weeks; now it's more like months. I thought at the time I was buying a lifetime's supply @ a bargain basement price. Now that I'm no longer using them all day every day, I think I actually have an inheritance on behalf of my descendants for several generations to come!
P.m. me your details & I'll send you a pack gratis. Even in a drill or ratchet hand driver they're better than they have a reasonable right to be. Of course, they're not miraculous, & have probably (definitely?) been superseded by something else more faster, leaner, meaner, titanium nitride plated, diamond encrusted etc. etc. But I bet these new wonderbits don't cost mere pennies either! Combined with even a small Metabo SSD PowerImpact it could be at least one inexpensive solution.
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mattj
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Post by mattj on Aug 14, 2017 11:22:07 GMT -5
The Phillips recess is designed to cam out, which prevents over-torquing in industrial applications (and drywall). For high torque tasks use another recess: Pozidrive, square drive (Robertsons if you speak Canadian), or Torx. Torx drive has pretty much taken over as the recess of choice in my part of the US, and is widely available in big box stores, etc.
If you're stuck with Phillips then the laser-etched Wera's mentioned above are your best bet. Good luck!
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Post by jimbouk on Aug 14, 2017 15:26:57 GMT -5
Torx for me now too. Also like the were impactor bits for longevity.
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