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Post by calidecks on Nov 4, 2017 12:34:07 GMT -5
Calidecks: maybe you should have ordered 7/3 of 32/24T blades. The 24T blade gave quite a good cut in thicker stock and I guess they would help out with tougher stock. But for quality decking I think the 32T blade is the sweet spot. Did you order any rip blade? The 16T should speed things up considerably. My latest Mafell order is running a bit late but should arrive next week which will see a shuffle and reorganization of my set up. Thing with composite, which is 95% percent of my finesse work. It has no grain, so my thought was, ripping would be the same as cross-cutting just longer. What is great for composite, is that riving knife. Although I may get a few 24's and have them throw in a 16 for giggles.
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Post by henrun on Nov 4, 2017 15:00:37 GMT -5
Ah, ok, makes perfect sense then with a stack of 32T's. Still, you never know when when you need them other blades - all it takes is just that one odd project.
I am not a high volume blade user like you are - I tend to do very different projects, one off builds and renovations so I need a pretty large variety of tools but seldom wear them down with only occasional heavy use.
For the KSS40 I have a stack of blades though, at least two of each variety and always a sharp one of each in the SYS.
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Post by mcnallyfamily on Nov 10, 2017 12:24:05 GMT -5
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Post by henrun on Nov 10, 2017 13:23:28 GMT -5
I can honestly not recommend the Mafell Dustbag to anyone for the KSS 50. It seems to fit better on my MT55/18bl though. Will know for sure tomorrow when it will make its first run.
A safe bet is the Metabo dustbag, better fit, goes over the dustport, takes up less space in the Systainer - and cheap as they should be.
I really love my Mafell gear but after ordering a glue bottle (spare part) with the Mafell logo I have learnt to check prices _before_ I order. It was hilariously, bordering on criminally, expensive. I could have bought ten filled glue bottles in any hardware store for that price...
I think Mafell suffers a little from being such a small company: the products are superb but the periferal items such as Systainer inserts and lateral thinking when it comes to fitting the small stuff has taken a nose dive for the worse. They don't seem to have anyone that is very good at that and what I have seen over the last years feels a bit "rushed", almost like a stop gap solution. Festool does it way better (not the machines though, and that's what counts...).
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Post by aas on Nov 10, 2017 14:21:59 GMT -5
It was hilariously, bordering on criminally, expensive. ... go on tell us... how much?
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Post by holmz on Nov 10, 2017 17:21:03 GMT -5
I'll probably order one... As I tend to use the MT55 outside with a hose or bag pretty often. Changed the blade a while back and lost the plastic piece that the hinged door captivates. The fact I found it a month or two later under a bench was amazing. Also located the 2 extra collet nuts for the LO50 that I ordered a year ago. It is amazing what happens when one tries to organise!
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Post by mcnallyfamily on Nov 10, 2017 23:16:45 GMT -5
I'll probably order one... As I tend to use the MT55 outside with a hose or bag pretty often. Changed the blade a while back and lost the plastic piece that the hinged door captivates. The fact I found it a month or two later under a bench was amazing. Also located the 2 extra collet nuts for the LO50 that I ordered a year ago. It is amazing what happens when one tries to organise! When we were cleaning our basement, it was like an archaeological dig, uncovering a complete record of our human activity for the past 25 years. It was amazing the things we had felt worthy of saving. I can't tell you just how many trips to the dump we have made as a result. I also found many items thought lost, and already replaced. Ahh the money wasted as a result of being disorganized...
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Post by holmz on Nov 11, 2017 21:08:32 GMT -5
Maybe ancestry.com will show us a brothers or cousins?
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Post by henrun on Nov 12, 2017 10:57:58 GMT -5
I'll probably order one... As I tend to use the MT55 outside with a hose or bag pretty often. Changed the blade a while back and lost the plastic piece that the hinged door captivates. The fact I found it a month or two later under a bench was amazing. Also located the 2 extra collet nuts for the LO50 that I ordered a year ago. It is amazing what happens when one tries to organise! Holmz: I feel I need to report that the Mafell Dustbag is a poor fit for the MT55cc and it is prone to fall off. I did some cutting today with the corded and cordless and unfortunately the Mafell Dustbag fell off a couple of times during the day - even after wrangled in place with more effort than should be necessary. If I had to adjust the bag slightly sideways it would fall off shortly thereafter. Can't recommend it - at that price you would ask that it should at least stay put on the machine. A conical shaped piece going into a straight hole? Stupid design. They should redesign it and offer a trade in for the old ones, free of charge. They sure look nice but trust me, they are that bad. So - Metabo black mitre saw dustbag used instead: much better fit - over the port hole like a glove, just as easy to empty and way cheaper: 1/3 of the price. Can recommend it. The Mafell Dustbag fits nicely on the KSS40 though - so now I have the original Dustbag, small and a with a proprietary thread screw cap that is easy to lose and hard to replace, one KSS 50 (et al) Dustbag that fits nicely but with a rubber cap that is prone to fall off + one spare... I'd offer to send you the Dustbag for free but you would not like it. Get a Metabo one instead.
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Post by chippiegary on Nov 12, 2017 13:27:48 GMT -5
Well all I can say is I’m glad Bosch rails are affordable in the uk ! Potential spanner in the works here - so here go’s my mt 55 2009 model “ that’s date on machine and all my machines are in really good condition not worn with original mafell blades “ ok so on my mt rail - 2008 kss300 bang on the splinter strip , 2014 kss400 bang on the splinter strip ,2016 kss 40 1 mm off , 2017 kss50 1 mm off I know henruns kss 40 is bang on seems to me around 2016 something has moved somewhere perhaps caldecks could comment if his kss40 and 50 marry up not great though if you are outside uk and having to buy expensive rails bit surprised to be honest .what is really strange is the kss40 is supposed to be the same as kss300 although mine is old they still look identical .what if I was to get kss 60 and 80 now where would we be then with rails ?
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Post by henrun on Nov 12, 2017 16:30:49 GMT -5
Hmm, sounds a bit odd that the KSS40 would be off. I think all blades are same blade thickness so that could not affect the cut. That leaves only the machine itself. Are your KSS40 and 50 cut widths the same - both being 1mm off?
I don't remember how the KSS300 was - I hardly used it on FSN rails.
As far as I can tell the KSS40, MT55cc and the MT55/18 all cut the same on the rails. Will make extra sure tomorrow and test with the KSS40 on the rails I've been using for the MT55cc only.
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Post by skinee on Nov 12, 2017 17:08:17 GMT -5
my mt55,kss 300,kss400 and kss 40 are all identically aligned(cut wise) on my rails.i would have bought the kss50 but for the fact that it does not align,as an alternative cordless with 50mm D.O.C i would have bought the ltx 57 but apparently its 1mm out as well,although I don't want to start a new battery platform that only leaves the bosch GKS 57G.mafell needs to get this most basic of basics correct- any saw on any rail and pivoting exactly around the splinter guard.this is what we pay the big bucks for,a saw should not need shimmed or fussed with,it should be ready to work with straight out of the box.
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Post by chippiegary on Nov 12, 2017 17:38:31 GMT -5
I agree skinee they should all be the same to be honest I’m not too fussed the kss40 doesn’t align I tend to use it just with its cross rail and flexi rail but the kss 50 should line up .
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Post by henrun on Nov 13, 2017 7:25:14 GMT -5
I agree skinee they should all be the same to be honest I’m not too fussed the kss40 doesn’t align I tend to use it just with its cross rail and flexi rail but the kss 50 should line up . Yes, this is my thoughts on it too. I am just glad the KSS40 aligns for straight cuts. I did have two FSN rails (800/1600 + short angle rail) dedicated to the KSS40 and they are not used very often. The only one I use on a regular basis is the 800mm as the Flexirail tends to sag on boards around 600-700mm in width and the 800mm (with short FSN angle rail) is great to have at those times. Maybe we should make a little reference table with cut compability FSN rail bevel / straight cut compatibility with standard thickness blades. That would be under the assumption that the machines are within nominal specs from factory though, which they should be.
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Post by henrun on Nov 13, 2017 12:33:33 GMT -5
Skinee: so the Metabo LTX57 and the KSS50 are about the same in referece to the cutting strip?
(Not that it helps the majority in anyway, but at least good to know)
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