lom
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LO 50 E
Mar 27, 2017 19:33:18 GMT -5
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Post by lom on Mar 27, 2017 19:33:18 GMT -5
Hi,
Does anyone know why Mafell stopped producing the LO 50 e router? I only read good things about it but you cant buy them anymore. I managed to buy one from a online store in france who still has some in stock. But i wonder why they stopped making this model. And is this going to be a problem if i'm going to need some parts in the future?
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LO 50 E
Mar 28, 2017 4:31:17 GMT -5
Post by holmz on Mar 28, 2017 4:31:17 GMT -5
Got mine 1-1/2 ago, and they were getting scarce then. I ordered some extra collets are collet nuts.
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LO 50 E
Mar 28, 2017 9:07:50 GMT -5
Post by aas on Mar 28, 2017 9:07:50 GMT -5
lom - where did you buy it?.. just missed out a new unused but secondhand one for peanuts.
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lom
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LO 50 E
Mar 28, 2017 13:06:52 GMT -5
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Post by lom on Mar 28, 2017 13:06:52 GMT -5
@ aas:
The company i bought it from just informed me that they dont sell them anymore (bit they still advertise it on their website) so Aas, is that offer still standing?
Cheers
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LO 50 E
Mar 28, 2017 13:20:46 GMT -5
Post by reno on Mar 28, 2017 13:20:46 GMT -5
I don't now why mafell stop to build the LO 50, I Got one its so easy to use, It sad to hear about now more LO 50 in sale
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LO 50 E
Mar 28, 2017 20:58:07 GMT -5
Post by aas on Mar 28, 2017 20:58:07 GMT -5
@ aas: The company i bought it from just informed me that they dont sell them anymore (bit they still advertise it on their website) so Aas, is that offer still standing? Cheers I missed out on one, it was already sold.
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lom
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LO 50 E
Mar 28, 2017 21:50:27 GMT -5
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Post by lom on Mar 28, 2017 21:50:27 GMT -5
Just bought one in the uk on Amazon, last one in stock! 😎
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LO 50 E
Sept 16, 2017 13:19:09 GMT -5
Post by matchesder on Sept 16, 2017 13:19:09 GMT -5
As I understand Mafell never made the LO 50. It was made by Festool. The best source I could find: www.werkzeug-news.de/Forum/ftopic5387.htmlRead in the first post: "zu 6) Nach Aussage meines Händlers werden beide Maschinen von Festool gebaut..." According to his dealer both machines (LO 50 and OF1010) are made by Festool. Have a look at the OF 900, the predecessor of the OF 1010. It looks much like the LO 50. There are some obvious differences and some you won't notice at first (maybe never), like different bearings he is talking about. On the other hand Mafell made the OF 2000 for Festool (the predecessor of the OF 2200). (http://www.woodworking.de/cgi-bin/holzbearbeitungsmaschinen/webbbs_config.pl?md=qpref) I guess there are discussions why they stopped producing for each other, I have no Idea. But I guess that's the reason why the LO 50 is not avalable any more. Actually that's sad because it seems like a nice small router like the OF 1010 but without the flaws of it. I never liked this oval dust port right above the table. Sometimes I'm looking for a used one. They seem to be very rare on ebay. If, then for a ridiculously high price. Even in rubbish (optical) condition.
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LO 50 E
Sept 16, 2017 14:26:26 GMT -5
Post by bicycleclip on Sept 16, 2017 14:26:26 GMT -5
I've been tempted by a second hand LO50, however Makita have just launched an 18v cordless 1/4" router trimmer for all those hard to reach/can't be bothered jobs. That's where my money's going now. Having said that, I relish the challenge of using my LO65 for delicate jobs, it can be done, need to be in 'the zone' to enjoy it though. BTW Makita's new router has a load of fences/attachments.
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Post by jonathan on Sept 16, 2017 15:07:28 GMT -5
Rumor is they're developing a new one
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Post by holmz on Sept 16, 2017 15:59:18 GMT -5
As I understand Mafell never made the LO 50. It was made by Festool. The best source I could find: www.werkzeug-news.de/Forum/ftopic5387.htmlRead in the first post: "zu 6) Nach Aussage meines Händlers werden beide Maschinen von Festool gebaut..." According to his dealer both machines (LO 50 and OF1010) are made by Festool. Have a look at the OF 900, the predecessor of the OF 1010. It looks much like the LO 50. There are some obvious differences and some you won't notice at first (maybe never), like different bearings he is talking about. On the other hand Mafell made the OF 2000 for Festool (the predecessor of the OF 2200). (http://www.woodworking.de/cgi-bin/holzbearbeitungsmaschinen/webbbs_config.pl?md=qpref) I guess there are discussions why they stopped producing for each other, I have no Idea. But I guess that's the reason why the LO 50 is not avalable any more. Actually that's sad because it seems like a nice small router like the OF 1010 but without the flaws of it. I never liked this oval dust port right above the table. Sometimes I'm looking for a used one. They seem to be very rare on ebay. If, then for a ridiculously high price. Even in rubbish (optical) condition. The LO-50 seemed more similar, ergonomically speaking, to the 1400. (I'll be busting it out again soon for some work.)
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LO 50 E
Sept 16, 2017 19:06:03 GMT -5
Post by huntsgemein on Sept 16, 2017 19:06:03 GMT -5
I think the reasons why it was discontinued are fairly self-evident. One party to the partnership has become a jealous, isolationist, rather greedy & selfish organisation that superficially appears to have eyes only on its own bottom line. The other party is much more cooperative and willing to share tech & production facilities with its partner companies, and as such has a collaborative ethos within its DNA.
I leave you to decide which is which. One needs only to regard the consequences of the tech & production sharing arrangements of the takeovers of various other mid-European toolmakers the likes of Narex, Kraenzle, Reich amongst others to see the veracity of my thesis. Compare it to the more "friendly" takeover of Metabowerke, which has lead to a veritable explosion of collaborative relationships. As far as Mafell is concerned, it's a marriage made in heaven.
As for the LO 50's demise: I won't be shedding any tears. Having been raised with Elu's range of fantastic routing machines & their vast range of high quality OEM & aftermarket tools, jigs & accessories, I always found the ergonomics of the radically asymmetric routers way too weird & awkward. So if Mafell want to build an all new better mousetrap, then I say: bring it on. Mafell, at least going on their recent performance, are very much at the top of their game, producing & licencing consistently class-leading tools in what is otherwise a fairly lacklustre marketplace of dubiously designed alternatives.
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LO 50 E
Sept 17, 2017 5:43:17 GMT -5
Post by skinee on Sept 17, 2017 5:43:17 GMT -5
Rumor is they're developing a new one intriguing, any more info Jonathan?
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LO 50 E
Sept 18, 2017 15:55:55 GMT -5
Post by matchesder on Sept 18, 2017 15:55:55 GMT -5
The LO-50 seemed more similar, ergonomically speaking, to the 1400. (I'll be busting it out again soon for some work.) Really? Sizewise, in weight and overall look's it semms to compare to the OF 1010. Well I did not see the LO 50 in real. The OF 1010 I owned, the 1400 I still do. There is a huge difference. Huntsgemein, you're probably right. If one wants a decent small router there are some MOF 96 on sale. No Idea how well the DeWalt 615 is worthy as a legacy. I've used the Perles OF3-808, which is very similar to the MOF 96. It's a really great machine. Someweher I read at some time the MOF 96 was produced by Perles. A more similiar type to the LO 50 could be the Scheer HM 4 (even smaller) or the HM 9 respectivley. They look as from a different era but from what I hear they are very well built and built to last. I recently picked up an HM 16 on ebay. It has to show in which condition. Sadly the HM 4 aren't as usual on ebay. Oh and here: www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mafell-oberfraese-fraese/703477116-87-4440450 € as basis? I guess back in 2002 it was cheaper as a new machine... Cheers Martin
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LO 50 E
Sept 18, 2017 16:16:49 GMT -5
Post by holmz on Sept 18, 2017 16:16:49 GMT -5
The LO-50 seemed more similar, ergonomically speaking, to the 1400. (I'll be busting it out again soon for some work.) Really? Sizewise, in weight and overall look's it semms to compare to the OF 1010. Well I did not see the LO 50 in real. The OF 1010 I owned, the 1400 I still do. There is a huge difference. ... Hi Martin - I went into Anderson Plywood in Santa Monica. I was surprised that the 1400 was more similar to the LO-50 than their 1010. The main difference seemed to be the 1/2" collet. And I tried an RO-150 on a slab of wood, but was not overly impressed. It seemed like used a divining rod, or following a bloodhound or truffle pig. Once the thing got its mind made up it would take off in seemingly random directions.
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