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Post by kraftt on Feb 20, 2017 21:13:40 GMT -5
So I found an ok deal on an MT55cc for just under 800 (US) delivered. (2 rails / 2 clamps / rail bag / rail connector / saw/blade/box). I’m sure there are better deals to be had but I’ve run out of time. (There was one with the same items but included an extra blade for a little less but their shipping was sketchy). Anyways… I’m very interested in the Aerofix vacuum rail too but don’t understand why they don’t make the track a bit longer. My question for anyone who already owns and uses the Aerofix is if it distributes the suction to the other rail when joined to standard rails? In other words is it just the Aerofix doing the suction clamping only when joined to another rail or is it incorporating the air volume under the standard track as well (if you move the little air dam to the far end of the joined track i.e. the part still covering material?) *edit - guess I'm asking this because if the standard rails can hold suction then they can (and in my case will ) be adapted to a vacuum hose sans Aerofix. ——————— I’m sure the Mafell F-SZ 100mm screw clamps will be just fine but how much of an improvement are the Bosch FSN KZW ? Are they a ‘must have’ ? Looks like the little bolt on plates could bend easily if dropped? ——————— Is there an opposite edge splinter guard solution for the Mafell similar to the Fest one ( festools-online.com/festool-splinter-guard-for-ts-55-ts-75-5-pcs.html )? Do they even work (or sometimes necessary)? ——————— Anybody get their second F160 rail and immediately cut it in half or unequal sections for limited work space situations. I take it that the rail connector is responsible for the alignment and a slightly off 90º cut on a miter saw though the aluminum rail won’t affect anything? ——————— How important is it to get the Mafell vacuum hose if you’re not using it with a Mafell or Fest vac? In other words is the Mafell vacuum hose tool-end ‘grooved’ rubber connector a must to keep it from falling out - i.e. does it connect to a rib for that groove inside the dust exhaust port or is it just a groove for friction. I assume I could use the Bosch as well. (for some reason I don’t want a green hose on a red tool, I’m not an elf). I also saw this online - www.rockler.com/dust-right-universal-small-port-hose-kit . Looks cheap n’ cheerful - anybody ever used one? Concerned it might grab edges. ——————— Any must have accessories or consumables/blades I should get now that you were sorry you didn’t have when you needed them? Best place to buy saw blades? Thanks.
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Post by aas on Feb 21, 2017 0:51:00 GMT -5
The aerofix attaches to other rails using the normal connector, but the vacuum suction is just on the aerofix. It's not a problem unless you are doing really long cuts. Most of the time, I don't use clamps even with non-aero rails, but if bothers you, stick one clamp on the far end of the run.
The little F-SZ clamps are great, the Bosch clamps are big, I don't really like them. Some here have had them break and looked into ways to modify them. If you buy the 32mm rails (OFA kit) from Bosch, they come in the kit - I wouldn't personally recommend you fork out to buy them separately.
No need for the outside edge splinter guard, as the MT55 has the scribing function, which is far superior.
The aerofix comes with the Mafell short hose - I also added the Mafell long hose. It is light and super flexible, I use it with all my tools, all the time - connected up to my Festool vac. Much more manageable than the cumbersome Festool hose.
Plunge guide is handy if you need to do plunge cuts, as are the plunge stops. I have two, one for each end of the plunge cut. The angle guide useful if you need it - depends what your usage will be.
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Post by kraftt on Feb 21, 2017 8:16:04 GMT -5
Ok that might explain the length of the Aero rail to some degree. Perhaps vacs with more power would have allowed them to make a 160cm (?). Might also have something to do with flex.
Oh that’s what the holes are for (duh). Looks like fun (not).
The Bosch clamps do look flimsy in the photos, thanks for confirming. The F-SZ’s look reliable, compact, indestructible.
I’ll trust your experience here, just thought that if the outside edge was going to be cut into the same amount that the scribed edge was under cut on the next pass, that it raised the chance of some minor chipping (probably only an issue with ultra cheap laminates then).
I’ll take it your are talking about the Aero FXS 1000MM (?) Interesting. If so, it’s an accessory I would need to buy anyways if I get the Aerofix so it’s worth trying out.
Does it retract on it’s own, and does that retraction have any significant pulling power to sneak a tool off a table.
I’m glad to hear you say this, most sales people I talked to knocked it because they said there wasn’t a demand for them, but I feel as you do if for no other reason than the peace of mind those accessories offer in demanding or stressful situations (at least the plunge stops).
Usage?! I’m just a Plumber. I only bought the saw to lord it over my neighbor who owns Festool.
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Post by aas on Feb 21, 2017 14:04:49 GMT -5
Usage?! I’m just a Plumber. I only bought the saw to lord it over my neighbor who owns Festool. This has to be the best reason EVER to buy a tool!!! |
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Post by lincoln on Feb 21, 2017 14:54:59 GMT -5
Definitely get the plunge guide. Very handy, and dead accurate.
I've never had a problem with the Bosch clamps - they don't need much pressure put on them to hold a rail in place. Not really a neccesary accessory though.
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Post by kraftt on Feb 23, 2017 0:34:20 GMT -5
My saw kit, from ‘other’ sources, was delivered insanely fast (for their slowest shipping method). Paid on the 19th arrived noon today on the 22nd. Normally I would expect there to be a ‘gotcha’ but I was drunk off the good price (for me) and uncharacteristically felt very comfortable about the whole thing. Everything came as ordered. One small gouge in cardboard shipping box but T-max was unscathed, pristine. Tracks / rails are dead nuts true. They just folded a single sheet of cardboard around the rail carrying case and that was it. Heard delivery throw/drop the boxes at the door, as if from 10 feet, and burn rubber. Started out deciding on the Makita for the utility of it but the track trueness issues that are constantly reported along with track joining hassle was a deal breaker, that and their lousy rail connectors & overpriced 118” track. Knew the Mafell was a no brainer but couldn’t see why it should cost double compared to other sources. If one business can get it here lawfully and make a profit then the consumer has a say too and that supersedes any other agreements. If I brought one back from Germany they’d be patting me on the back and helping me load it on the plane. Business is business, why shouldn’t the little guy benefit from the global economy too instead of being held at an unreasonable disadvantage. PayPal tried to add on $24 bucks for the exchange rate. They called it ‘the spread’ when I called them today. Laughed my ass off when they said the charge was ‘indisputable’. (they purposely use a 2.5% variable on the exchange rate, and adamantly refuse to call it a ‘charge’ or ‘fee’). Called my card company and they instantly sided with me and credited my account but noted that if I filed a dispute I would lose becasue PayPal purposely doesn’t send you an email or copy of the transaction. And you need this to file because the whole issue is that when you click to pay they make no mention of the added charge only that you agree to the amount shown which doesn’t yet show the added fee at time of payment. Though if you are a PayPal member I’m told you have access to options that let you select your credit card company as the ones who set exchange rate. Silly stuff but the principal of it bothered my - I thought it was the seller hiking the price but their invoice showed only the amount originally agreed upon. Credit card company also said that another reason they were siding with me was that the transaction / payment was logged locally, interesting. Shipping was definitely from elsewhere, I tracked it from day one, but money was exchanged here. *edit - As of the 29th PayPal will be changing it's terms to rip you off even more across the board. Currency exchange 'spread' is now called the 'spread charge' and moves up from 2.5% to 3%. Terms here:www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full?locale.x=enAnyways… Thought the motor would sound like a router, maybe you need to wear in the brushes. Just sounds like a gravely saw to me, though it is rather quiet. Why does the label say Marfel? Was putting on a new plug end when I thought I’d better open the handle to make sure the switch wasn’t only controlling one wire. It’s bad form here to switch the neutral only so you need to identify which wire goes to switch. Mafell definitely switches both wires. But when I looked inside I caught Mafell Q.C. sleeping. They left a screw off the power cord strain relief. (maybe it is a Marfel). Used a three prong to better hold plug in receptacles. Holy crap. The Mafell rail clamps look like something you buy from Harbor Freight. They’re a joke. Nice touch how the T-Max handle lowers slowly (like a toilet seat), wish they put more thought into the inside. Can never understand why tool manufactures always drop the ball on interior layout. What’s that removable rectangular velcro’d piece for in the rail carrying case? (now what do I have to buy).  Attachments:
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Post by holmz on Feb 23, 2017 6:24:57 GMT -5
My saw kit, from ‘other’ sources, was delivered insanely fast (for their slowest shipping method). Paid on the 19th arrived noon today on the 22nd. ... I once got a fuel pump from the UK to Australia in 96 hours... amazing! |
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Post by kraftt on Feb 23, 2017 9:47:26 GMT -5
Didn't like the loose fit of the allen key that came with my Marfel. Pulled out my own allen set and got a better fit. Guess the ones supplied are "Made in Germany" but made first in 'Chinamany'.  (Guess I'm not the only one doing some creative importing.) |
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