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Post by reflector on Aug 3, 2016 15:04:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply. that is some pretty good advise, cheers. one crucial point i forgot to mention is, the ply is veneered on BOTH sides, so will i get an equally clean cut on the underside?. Yeah i just get that same opinion of the MT55, it just looks a more quality bit of kit. That would be perfect, but i have read that the OF1400 is incompatible with the Bosch adapter?, or maybe thats changed now. Cheers mate I suspect with a good blade you shouldn't have to deal with chipout on the bottom side of the cut but hypothectically taping both sides as a form of insurance should work. Sharp blade being the biggest thing here since a good blade doesn't cause chipout on the side it enters the work on and chipout is from the unsupported side of the material. Run a test piece first. In regards to the other replies in the thread about the GKT55 GCE, it is effectively a simplified version of the MT55cc: 1. No quick blade change system. The side doesn't open up, you're dealing with the port on the side like the TS55. It doesn't lock the blade down either, there is a small button below the lever you hold down to lock the arbor when you change the blade. 2. It uses two screws to lock the angle. Some people had problems with having the footplate twisted when they force it into position after locking one side. Shouldn't be a problem in use if you lock it without any pressure on the footplate. 3. Don't think it has the 1-2mm scoring cut plunge toggle 4. It does have a front handle, which is something I think Mafell should of added to the MT55cc. 5. I believe the dust port locks with Bosch dust extractors in some newer revision where they changed the dust port to have a little cutout for a plastic locking pin. 6. I think I takes 165mm blades instead? (Someone put one of those into their MT55cc but I never got any confirmation about clearance with the fit) Otherwise most of the MT55cc features like the motor, pull down front plastic dust port extractor, the height indicator for on/off trail operation and everything else. Mafell is supposed to make it for Bosch from my understanding and they have some kind of deal with the rails. As everyone has said before: The Bosch rails are identical to the Mafell rails aside from the color and text. The Bosch rails work fine for me as well, you can see my collection. Not shown are the two bags for them. The Bosch FSN OFA adapter is compatible with the OF1010 according to the hole diagram. The only case where it wouldn't be compatible is the base diameter and there was another thread about (mitigating) that here: mafell-users-forum.freeforums.net/thread/662/2200-on-mafell-guide-railI have the Bosch MRC23 (GOF1600 for the rest of the world) router which I think is somewhat comparable to the OF1400, but I believe the GOF 1250 is a closer competitor to the Festool. The MRC23 has screw on adapters (A pain in the ass if you ever have to take them on and off) for dust collection and they're functional enough. I still envy the Festool OF2200's dust collection however... Attachments:
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Post by oncomeme on Sept 27, 2016 21:35:58 GMT -5
Having used and loved both, for this specific application, I think that Festool has the edge over the Mafell only because of the little disposable green splinter guards you can install ahead of the blade so your offcuts are every bit as clean as the other side without having to tape or pre-score. I've never gotten anything but flawless results when using that little hunk of overpriced plastic--even on cheaper plastics and plywoods--but with the Mafell, it's occasionally a crap shoot as to whether or not the right hand side is going to chip or splinter on me, sharp blade or no. If you wanted to say, make your own edge banding, I'd go green.
That said, it's not something I worry about often and have sold my TS55 because the extra power and ability to clamp the rail right up to the edge is way more important to me personally.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on Sept 27, 2016 22:39:31 GMT -5
Having used and loved both, for this specific application, I think that Festool has the edge over the Mafell only because of the little disposable green splinter guards you can install ahead of the blade so your offcuts are every bit as clean as the other side without having to tape or pre-score. I've never gotten anything but flawless results when using that little hunk of overpriced plastic--even on cheaper plastics and plywoods--but with the Mafell, it's occasionally a crap shoot as to whether or not the right hand side is going to chip or splinter on me, sharp blade or no. If you wanted to say, make your own edge banding, I'd go green. That said, it's not something I worry about often and have sold my TS55 because the extra power and ability to clamp the rail right up to the edge is way more important to me personally. I too like the splinter guard, but if you cut backwards at 1 - 2mm that seems to do the trick with chipping. An extra step for sure. |
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Post by holmz on Sept 28, 2016 1:13:28 GMT -5
The pre-scoring function does a forward ~2 cut and it seems to not have any chip out.
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Post by charley1968 on Sept 28, 2016 1:54:59 GMT -5
My 2 cent: the Mafell is probably the better tracksaw compared to the TS 55, but that said: the FT does its job competently and may have more aftermarket accessories in its favour. I recently bought a right angle fence for my TS and that thing works fabously. As it is, it's only available for the FT tracks.
As for the routers: Trend has a good name here in Sweden. And the OF 1400 is my favourite tool for it's versatility. Can't go wrong there, i recon..
One tool i can imagine could be useful for you is the jigsaw. I had Makita and FT jigsaws before but i never liked them because i couldn't get repeatable cuts, no matter what blade i used. Not so with the Mafell P1 CC: now it's only my fault if a cut doesn't work out. Excellent piece of machinery, albeit expensive. But not as expensive as a tool just collecting dust. And i don't mean extractors..đŸ˜€
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Post by holmz on Sept 28, 2016 6:39:12 GMT -5
It would be a difficult decision if one already had Festool tracks or a stack of batteries and wanted the cordless TS-55(R?).
Starting from scratch it seems easier, except for perhaps the Router on the tracks. The OFA takes a lot of machines, but I am not sure about the larger QF2200. Bosch make a few as well as the LO65... But it seems more than I would want to use on a track.
Both track saws probably are well better than what was available just a short while ago.
Hardly a reason for dispair.
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Post by chippiegary on Sept 28, 2016 13:41:27 GMT -5
Hi Harry welcome to forum ,I know it might be a bit of a trek but d&m tools based in twickenham have there tool show at kempton racecourse next Friday /sat and Sunday 7th 8th and 9th well all the major tool companies will be there "mafell Festool Bosch dewalt etc there are usually show deals but more importantly you can try before you buy I go every year "mostly to pick the German mafell demonstrators brains who comes over every year " but Nathan from mafell will be there also demonstrating he's very helpful and knowledgeable worth a look might be of help to make you decide ? " personally I'd go mafell every time kind regards Gary
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Post by jimbouk on Sept 28, 2016 14:30:00 GMT -5
Hi welcome to the forum where abouts are you based in the uk Cheers pal!. i'm staffordshire Are you a stokie then? Rubbish start to the season for them! Fwiw mt55 all the way. Routers I would go with the big dewalt for the table. It's really well suited. Axminster do a good table/lift by ukj technology. I like the smaller dewalt router too as I don't like the handle of the of1400. Let us know how you get on. |
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