Very Impressive Saw! I stumbled on the videos a few weeks back and got really excited. I dont think it bevels both directions unless its like the MT55 (3 degrees). I've been planning on getting the KSP 85 but I will wait for this version. Looks like this will be the equivalent to the Festool TS 75.
A few features to note:
Depth Gauge 0-88 mm Edge of blade guide (on plate like MT 55) Fits F Style Rails Blade lock (like MT 55) Efficient dust collection Under Plate Edge Guide for Narrow Rips
Incase the link ever dies the following is a quote from the site:
K 85 - to hear this name the new circular saw by Mafell. The circular saw K85 is powered by a high-performance engine CUprex and is equipped with a new 60 ° swivel system. This innovative swivel system allows cuts to a depth of 88 mm - even when using the guide rail a cutting depth of 80 mm is achieved. The new angle adjustment allows for optimal reading of the scale. The highlight of this pivot system stands for the experienced craftsman in working with this machine, but immediately catches the eye, no matter what angle setting was chosen - the sawing machine always on the rubber strip along. This is truly exceptional! Also new and very accurate leveling enough to set a single handle to the depth of cut and lock - and that is absolutely unique. Another highlight of this circular saw: it has only a crack indicator. This crack indicator adapts but automatically to the adjusted tilt angle. Too close to the edge are working with the optional accessory undergripping stop (K85 - UA) no problem, using the scale present on the bracket, the distance can be adjusted easily. Another plus point of this circular saw is the Pendelhaubenvoreinzug the handle is located on the second. Especially for bevel cuts, the machine can start better and makes it easier to work with this tool many times. Even the simple, safe and familiar from other machines blade change has been optimized by Mafell again, so can the saw blade and the hinged cover can be locked with a single setting. This setting also activates the lockout. The engine is CUprex many users already know - anyone with an interest in engines know CUprex design yet: CUprex engines enable a very high torque and make significantly more power to the blade. These high-performance engines are using performance-optimized digital technology and newly developed control technology brought up to speed, thanks to the speed of these motors can be continuously adjusted to different materials. We say once again an absolute innovation from Mafell !
I would love to be able to get some more information on any of the 85 or 80 saws. Currently I can find nothing. Is this saw the same as the ksp85 (per the first video? or is it a new one? is there two different types of say and kss and the ec and the ksp? What is the difference between these models?
I have been looking to get a track saw that can do deeper precise plunge cuts. the festool ts75 is what I have been looking at. But the KSP85 could fill more of my needs. But will it do similar tasks, is it as clean once hooked up to an extractor? is it as precise? Has anyone used one that can give some feedback.
The KSP 85 which is the one currently available is different than the New K 85, which this thread is mentioning.
The KSP 85 can work on the F style Mafell rails but its like the KSS 300. When beveling it pivots at a single point therefore any angle cuts other than 90 degrees will cut deeper into the guide strip.
The New K 85 has a sliding pivot like the MT55 which means that when beveling the saw blade edge is always directly on the Guide strip edge.
The dust collection will not be as good as a plunge saw since the blade isnt entirely covered, but this allows other positive options. Mainly that you can see the blade in relation to the cutting surface for non-guide rail use. Although I think the collection would be similar to a plunge saw with the 36 mm hose.
Also the Plunge mechanism isn't as easy to use as a plunge saw which Matt can confirm from the KSS 300. It takes some getting use to.
The KSP model also comes in a 65 and 85 model.
From what I can tell the K 85 is the closest to the Festool TS 75 but more versatile since its also well suited off a guide rail and has a deeper cut.
This version apparently has a new plunge function, but probably more similar to the kss 300/400. It can also bevel up to 60 degrees! Don't expect it to be cheap. Is guaranteed to have a lion of a motor though.
If I had to own three saws it would ideally be the kss 300, the mt55 and the kss 85. I'm pretty sure I could slaughter any job in my field with that combo. Specs on this guy slaughter the ts75, again more power larger depth of cut and more flexibility with the kss rail and the f tracks. No North American availability yet nor a price but it's on my want lost with out a doubt.
From reading various google translations I have come to these conclusions: The K 85 has the multi pivot The K 85 ec has the multi pivot and variable speed motor The kss 85 has the multi pivot and comes with the track attachment similar to the other kss saws
It seems all of these are 230 volt currently. Now we have to wait for the 120 volt version to come to North America.
bengt: Oh please the ks60 is better in every way. 60 degree miter in both directions. Bevels past 45(essential in a saw that must cut on the flat) Bigger blade more capacity. The Metabo hpt has 57 degree miter max and 45 bevel max.
Sept 9, 2019 20:02:24 GMT -5
abdon: I stand corrected , the angle fence is only attaches with F -Tracks , what confused me was , that the Timberwolf site mentioned it will work with the NFU machine, yes it will work but only I guess when you use the Ftrack , with other tracks Like the KSS L.
Nov 28, 2020 22:52:01 GMT -5
glynnco: Did you order from GereedschapPro? I see them as in stock but I'm located in the US and am not sure if they ship here. I sent them an email asking about shipping but it was returned undeliverable...
Dec 10, 2020 7:37:40 GMT -5
jonathan: I've purchased a lot of stuff from our neighbours @ GereedschapPro.nl As far as I know they are one of the larger Mafell dealers in the EU. I can recommend them, they usually respond quickly.
Dec 11, 2020 13:58:36 GMT -5
NFU 50 Transportation?: Hi Guys, is there some Systainer for the NFU 50?
Dec 11, 2020 14:30:12 GMT -5
frezik24: Hello everyone
Dec 13, 2020 9:20:00 GMT -5
lasse: Thanks for the tip! I have own a mafell rail which is 160 cm and one that is 80 cm. Will it work just as well or will I need to buy rail that is 110 cm?
Mar 18, 2021 15:35:15 GMT -5