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Post by jonathan on Sept 7, 2013 10:48:27 GMT -5
Just 2 quick videos to show off the dust collection of the MT55cc when cross cutting 8 pieces of 22x45mm. In combination with a Protool VCP 260 E-L-AC.
Feel free to comment.
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Post by GhostFist on Sept 7, 2013 12:15:36 GMT -5
badass!
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Post by jalvis on Sept 8, 2013 21:32:48 GMT -5
Thats a great demonstration video! I need to get the larger hose for my vac. My collection isn't that good.
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Post by luzzy on Feb 18, 2014 21:38:49 GMT -5
Thats a great demonstration video! I need to get the larger hose for my vac. My collection isn't that good. Was that a 27mm or a 36mm in that video? That's pretty amazing - there is almost nothing on the table after the cut...I've been cutting with a TS55 for years with a 27mm and honestly never thought to go bigger. Duh!
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Post by jonathan on Feb 19, 2014 1:54:23 GMT -5
Luzzy, those cuts were made with the standard 48T blade, a non antistatic 36mm hose attached to a Protool VCP 260 E-L-AC.
The larger opening of the rubber suction nozzle on a 36mm hose is the key. I get similar results with my 32mm hose which has the same suction nozzle as the 36mm hose. When you insert a 27mm hose nozzle inside your dust port you reduce the diameter and airflow by too great a factor to have good collection.
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Post by wrightwoodwork on Feb 19, 2014 14:23:19 GMT -5
That's interesting on the current mafell 27 and 35mm hoses both share the same size nozzle. It will be interesting to see if they stay the same size as each other or not on new models. The vac it's self is fine its just the 35mm hose being stiff and sometimes twisting off in use and a too small nozzle for a 35 are the little things that annoy me with it. Out of curiosity do the starmix hoses ha e different size ends in relation to the size of hose
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Post by jonathan on Feb 19, 2014 16:12:41 GMT -5
As far as I know and can see the nozzle ends on a Starmix are the same as on a Mafell.
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Post by luzzy on Feb 20, 2014 18:45:05 GMT -5
Luzzy, those cuts were made with the standard 48T blade, a non antistatic 36mm hose attached to a Protool VCP 260 E-L-AC. The larger opening of the rubber suction nozzle on a 36mm hose is the key. I get similar results with my 32mm hose which has the same suction nozzle as the 36mm hose. When you insert a 27mm hose nozzle inside your dust port you reduce the diameter and airflow by too great a factor to have good collection. That makes perfect sense. I think I was living in a hole. I never realized there was a 36mm hose that would go OVER the dust port. I think I was so happy with the whole setup (the TS55&ct22) that it didn't occur to me that it could be better. Of course after stumbling upon Mafell this winter ,right after I bought the new REQ to replace my old Festool, I immediately sold the new Festool and have a renewed interest in setting up a shop in my basement. Had I done this earlier, I probably would have tuned in to better dust collection as a necessity instead of being satisfied with the job site performance I was getting. There is so much useful information here and at the FOG site. I am grateful to have discovered them and the craftsmen that support them.
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Post by 7 on Mar 28, 2014 23:04:48 GMT -5
Used the MT55 throughout the day today to rip down 1 1/8" , 3/4", and 1/2" MDF. I used to be a bit surprised that there was no dust. Even though it isn't much of a surprise any more I am still very grateful. MDF dust sucks bad, no pun. I had a table saw and miter saw set up outside with no vacs connected and it was a good reminder of how much dust is created from even simple single cuts.
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Post by bavanor on Mar 29, 2014 8:37:59 GMT -5
Hey 7, I agree mdf dust is terrible. I am always reminded on how well the mt55 does at dust extraction every time the hose comes unplugged from the saw. Then oh boy do you see the dust.
Aaron
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Post by Tom Gensmer on Mar 29, 2014 17:33:42 GMT -5
Quick shot showing the inside of the blade guard of the MT-55cc. Amazing how enclosed the blade shroud is! I had an opportunity to compare the MT to a TS-55R last week, I was surprised by how "open" the shroud on the TS-55R is compared to the MT-55cc. Love the dust collection on the MT-55cc, best in class! Attachments:
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Post by jonathan on Mar 30, 2014 1:13:39 GMT -5
Great to see I'm not the only one that's still surprised from time to time about the dust collection on any of my Mafell tools The dealer that sold me the MT55 said the cutout that allows the arbor to move down is actually also really important to the dust collection. The less dust it is enclosed the more dust can get out and suction gets lost through there. Makes sense. Another saw where they've done a great job here is the Makita SP6000. That's also why that saw has better collection than the competition, save for Mafell & the one they've licensed to Bosch of course. Makita SP6000 Festool TS55R Dewalt Also worth noting, there's a rubber gasket around the blade housing to avoid loss of suction and dust leaking through. I wonder if there's any other manufacturers out there would've bothered with that? Mafell is expensive but when you start comparing the details, fit and finish with the competition you can easily see why. The engineering and the fact they seem to cut less corners than the competition results in superior tools. I really believe the fact that many Mafell tools have best in class dust collection is most likely one of the direct results of that.
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Post by James on May 21, 2014 14:47:36 GMT -5
Just bought the mafell plunge saw, used it with a nilfisk multi 20 t, ( cheap vac at about £ 80 from maplin), dust extraction was fantastic even with a basic unit like this, the hose was a little short, but ok for smaller boards.
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Post by MrToolJunkie on May 21, 2014 15:58:21 GMT -5
That is excellent to hear. I want to add one of these to my arsenal soon.
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Post by 7 on Jun 2, 2014 23:49:41 GMT -5
Just did a job installing bead board wainscoting in 2 upstairs rooms. I was able to set up the work table in the room and cut the bead board stacked 6 high. In 2 passes with the saw I had 12 pc of wainscot ready to install. The 2 rooms were "bonus rooms" above the garage with ceilings that tapered down so it was extra nice to just be able to make two marks and cut the line. I still often think of the "old" way of doing jobs like this and the up & down the stairs etc. It still feels a bit strange to cut MDF sheets in a finished space with carpet. I think the homeowner finds it a bit weird when they hear a saw fire up in their finished home until they see how it works. Gotta pull the vac hose off every few months to stay grateful.
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